If Ruiz was 25 pounds lighter would the fight be different?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Yes IMO. It would've been a very tense bout and could've eventually lead to the KO. Ruiz would've still been troubled by the movement anyway, but his work and workrate in general was embarassing tonight.

    Credit to Joshua here. Ruiz the lazy sod only has himself to blame.
     
  3. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not different at all.

    Only way Ruiz can beat Stick And Move Joshua is to work on cutting off the ring. Otherwise, it'll be just like this again. Even if Ruiz comes in at 240 pounds.

    Too much size difference.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. This Joshua beats any Ruiz imo
     
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  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I think it would be different but we will never know.

    If the queen had balls she would be king.
     
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  6. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Well that was the only way Joshua wins. His team saw what happens when they exchange. Ruiz has an awesome chin. Doesn't matter how lighter he would be, in this condition Joshua is just with the better stamina.
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He would have had a much better chance, but I still would have slightly favored Joshua in that case.
    Next time he should ask where Canelo orders his taco's, building some muscle instead of fat.
     
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  8. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not much. Ruiz has slow feet. Joushua with tonight's game plan would beat any version of Ruiz.
     
  9. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Member Full Member

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    No, Ruiz is not known as a power puncher and more for speed. At 25 lbs less he’d gain a little more speed and less power but he’d still be defenseless against AJ’s reach and jab. He’d have to hope for another lucky concussion punch to win.
     
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  10. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz coming in fighting shape would have made quicker with better stamina. He would have forced AJ to fight out of the pocket more
    Ruiz could have bagged a couple of rounds in
     
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  11. MarcelCerdan13

    MarcelCerdan13 Member Full Member

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    Anyone who knows how to be cagey and box defensively and has the stamina to do so for 12 is going to be a nightmare for Ruiz unless he really focuses on speeding up his feet. I picked him to beat Joshua because I didn’t think Joshua was capable of adopting that style in such a short period of time and mentally overcoming such a devastating loss. Ruiz is nearly unbeatable in close range exchanges, but there’s a reason he dropped several rounds to old Kevin Johnson years after Joshua destroyed him in 2.
     
  12. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so. AJ changed a lot, losing the muscle helped him, changing styles and sticking to his gameplan helped.

    Ruiz can't beat him again barring a come from behind KO.
     
  13. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Said before the fight, 268 to 283 is not a massive jump, it’s a 5% difference in weight. Even if that weight negatively effected his performance by 5% Ruiz would need much more than a 5% improvement to beat the AJ he faced tonight. I don’t see any version of Ruiz getting close to the version of AJ he fought tonight.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    No. Joshua's team realised that Ruiz's success comes from countering Joshua. By sticking to a jab orientated game plan they removed the majority of Ruiz's opportunities to launch counter attacks.

    JMM had the same issue when people didn't initiate the action.
     
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  15. enqwert

    enqwert New Member Full Member

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    It could be different. Ruiz could cut the distance faster and would have more chances to land some combos.