Is anyone going to care about Andy Ruiz after his last performance? What is his legacy now?

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  1. tatiannafx

    tatiannafx New Member Full Member

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    Judging by social media it seems everyone is off the Andy Ruiz wagon and that he was all hype.

    This has got to be one of the biggest comedowns in boxing history. Imagine knocking out the HW champion, and being hyped up to be the next big thing, only to come in 20 lbs heavier and losing nearly every single round and letting everyone down.

    Disappointed in Ruiz. And will probably not even follow his career anymore.
     
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  2. ndthentherewasx

    ndthentherewasx let it marinate Full Member

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    What legacy?

    Dude is playing catch up now. Smh..


    To add, good luck with the rematch that isnt going to happen
     
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its his own fault.

    He should have known that Joshua would be determined and would be better the second time around.

    What did Andy do instead?

    3 months of binge eating

    2 months of light training

    1 month of chat show appearances

    His simpleton mind got him into this trouble.

    DAZN or Hearn might show some mercy and have him on an undercard somewhere again soon but if he comes in the same pathetic shape next time, consign this guy to the history books. He will be DONE.
     
  4. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another $10m in the bank. The guy never gets under 300lbs again, and I doubt he even retains the desire to fight again
     
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  5. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Sure. Someone suggested a fight with Ortiz. Personally, I didn't think neither Ortiz or Ruiz loss means they are through. I think this is the time to employ the old adage 'styles make fights.'

    I'd place a signature bet that an Old-so-called ancient Ortiz vs a Human Chaloopa Ruiz would throw more and land more than Wilder vs Fury.

    If either Ortiz and or Ruiz fight again, I am confident they will throw more than anything Fury will do until he retires. They both have strong IQs in the ring. They just have certain styles, that don't mesh well. And one doesn't have to be finished to get compromised badly.
     
  6. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz has only lost two fights and the Parker loss could have easily been scored a draw or a win for him. He is 1-1 against Joshua and in their first fight beat him up and KOed him. He lost the rematch but stayed on his feet and didn't take too much punishment. Ruiz does not have to be done. But the big IF is if he will learn from this and dedicate himself to training and preparation. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt he will do it. He has a care-free live for the moment outlook on life and I think the purses from the two Joshua fights may ruin him as a fighter. And as many have pointed out if he continues to be obese his health may be in jeopardy as he ages. My dream is that he focuses on boxing for awhile, gets in great shape, and gets back in the championship mix. I can dream, can't I?
     
  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Agreed. I guess sometimes we love to roll boxers under our bus when they lose! Stated in another thread...would we really scrutinize what he ate going into fight 2...if we knew what he was eating going into the 1st fight? Seems he has been heavy his whole life because he likes to eat. Regardless he can fight.

    Side note...James Toney, man could he fight...even when he blew up to look like an extra dark chocolate milk dudd vs Rahman. Same with Ruiz IMO. He is a fighter who can box, not an athlete who boxes. Without that 24/7 styled documentary following boxers, we can't meticulously scrutinize.
    I think we did that. We (some of us) allowed all these videos to make us assume it had to have been that extra beef sandwich, that extra double dipped fudge brownie backed up with the super-sized 5 cheese pizza with extra stuffed cheese in the crust..surrounded by a layer of mozeralla...that had to have been the reason.

    What if Ruiz lost because AJ was better this time around? I' love a good conspiracy, but I save that for politics. AJ beat Ruiz, not late door dash delivery.
    [edit] I have a habit of asking questions...not necessarily directed at the poster...this is one my bad!!
     
  8. Peterp

    Peterp Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Andy's legacy is he was able to provide for his family for life from this sport
     
  9. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His legacy will be a depraved level of fatness and landing a counter hook to the temple when Joshua rushed in and lingered in the strike zone. When Joshua didn't make this mistake, Ruiz couldn't do a thing, so it completely validated the 'fortunate counter punch that turned the fight' narrative. If he'd been very competitive in the rematch, but lost, it would be different, but now the first fight will seem more and more like a lucky night as time goes on.

    He also disgraced his Mexican people and made this worse by promoting his 'doing it for the Raza' racial agenda every interview for six months, going back to Mexico etc. If I was Mexican, I'd be furious at this guy for being so ill-disciplined and putting up such a pathetic performance. It's a lot worse than with Fury's post champion come down, too, because Fury went off the rails in an obvious way, contemplating suicide etc., he wasn't on a glamour tour (in fact his table-talk with Wlad for the rematch was disturbing), and he wasn't claiming to represent anyone besides Team Fury. Ruiz was just an indulgent, overconfident fool who talked the talk then let everybody down, all with that dumb smile on his face. Hopefully he is shamed for a long time by his countrymen, whatever that term means, lol.
     
  10. tatiannafx

    tatiannafx New Member Full Member

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    Brutal response but I agree. He let his nation down big time. But worst of all he let himself and his fans down
     
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  11. DodgySyrup

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    Nobody really cared before.
     
  12. Simon Head

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    Would still like to see Ruiz fight Wilder, Whyte, Povetkin.

    Ruiz gave us one hell of a night of boxing back during the first fight. I’ll always remember how exciting that fight was.

    Yes the rematch was disappointing, but it was always going to be either a Joshua boring decision, or Ruiz blasting him out faster than last time.

    Ruiz does not have the disciple to stay in fighting shape every fight, not even for the most important fight of his life. I expect more great fights from him, but he will never be the guy in the division ever again.
     
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  13. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    The money will be gone soon. He hasn't got the brains or discipline to hang onto it.
     
  14. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, I agree that he will likely blow-through all of his money quickly. I see it as a lack of discipline and knowledge, along with his carefree personality. He won't be alone. Many people who inherit a big fortune or win a huge lottery end up in worse shape financially, spiritually, and emotionally after a few years. Having a lot of money is not necessarily a good thing at all. Be careful what you ask for.
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I think he has a future as a front man for Taco Bell. Knockout hunger! What's his walk around weight?

    Ruiz disgraced the sport to come in that heavy. If he works at it, he can regain contender status, but now that he has had his 15 minutes of fame and been paid millions I tend to doubt he'll take boxing seriously again...unless he's broke.

    I was becoming a Ruiz fan, until he stepped on that scale.