If Wilder want to be recognized as legit he needs to fight Ruiz

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  1. Incinerate

    Incinerate Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua fans are back! They are back and their ass backwards way of thinking is on full throttle.
     
  2. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    AJ has a Brain. Whyteleafe does not. Neither have a chin. Learn to read before attempting to learn my content.
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you’re saying that Fury already beat Wilder, he’s getting ready to fight Fury again(who now has Arum behind him and is the best HW in the world according to the ring), and in the same breath as saying that, you keep claiming that he refuses to fight a live body and needs to step up to Ruiz, who just got dominated yesterday?

    Let me repeat my original question, how on earth does that make any sense to you?
     
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  4. Incinerate

    Incinerate Active Member Full Member

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    What a stupid ass post. Oh, but when you see his avy, you see that he's an azz poster.
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me ask this question. Why in the blue hell Bionce fight Ortiz for the second time ? With what Ortiz deserve that, how this fight was credible ?
    And read the whole comment, and get into the sense of it, don`t catch for just a word on it.
    I said Wilder has obviously escaping dangerous fighter. He doesn`t think Fury is such, yet Fury beats him. But Fury is feather fists, thats why Wilder will fight him, cause he can`t KO him, and we see what happen in the first fight. Even tho he lost, he get the draw.
     
  6. kdyehs

    kdyehs Member Full Member

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    No more Ruiz for me, thank you.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he is not better. Ortiz is terrible. He is slow and far less dangerous than Ruiz is. and where the f**** that myth come with Ortiz power?
    He couldn`t KO Malik Scott, couldn`t KO Hammer, and he never really fight decent boxer/puncher so we can say he is good and that he really have snap in his punches.
    And even if he hit hard as a mule, but he is not, Ruiz is still far more dangerous, because of his speed, while Ortiz is slow as *****.
    And Ruiz is using combination with his lighting fast hands.

    Wilder - Ruiz will be great fight, after the Fury fight, and Ruiz to get 1 win in that time, so he didn`t come from a lost, tho that is not a problem for Deontey, if you look at his record .....
    And that fight will tell a lot of Wilder, but he is scared to death facing a dangerous fighter, thats why he is milking his title and his 0.

    He could have faced Povetkin and Takam, when they was in shape, Klitschko, Joshua, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, and more credible fighters, yet he choose the easy road and to be remembered as a Bamby who dare to face only cab drivers or 65 years old pensioners.
     
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    If that is him supposedly training for his biggest fight imagine what he'll weigh three months from now. They'll need to crane him into the ring if he fights again.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Ortiz tko Jennings which wlad couldn't do smh. Look at ortiz ko percentage smh.
     
  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He fought Ortiz again because Haymon wanted it. In your other post you talk about Ortiz being unable to KO Hammer and Scott, why don’t you talk about Ruiz going the distance with and looking like **** against the corpses of Liakhiovich(a fight that could’ve easily been a draw) or Kevin Johnson last year?

    Regarding Fury, Every one is telling Wilder that he lost to Fury, he got a draw and his perfect record blemished, he would’ve officially lost had he not scored the late KD, and despite all that, he doesn’t think that Fury is a dangerous opponent, yet he thinks Ruiz who looked absolute **** last night( and looked as such in many fights before that) is? Did you seriously type that crap with a straight face?

    And you said in the OP that Wilder would need to prove himself against Ruiz if he beats Fury. How do you possibly not prove yourself against Fury, but do so against a far inferior opponent to him?

    I’m not talking about what Wilder thinks, I’m talking about what you think. How in your crazy world did you manage to convince yourself that Ruiz would be a bigger challenge than Fury?

    And boxing is a lot more than just punching power. Fury is a far, far, far more dangerous opponent than anyone for Wilder, maybe, except for Joshua.
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah and that just show how past prime Klitschko was, no that Ortiz is some heavy puncher. Just like i said this guy couldn`t ko Scott Malik and Christian Hammer. Not much more need to be said than that.

    theanatolian, you have problem reading or just readining between the lines?
    Did you even read what i said ?
    Regardless of Ruiz shape, he is a big name now, because of his fight with Parker and the win against Joshua. No matter in what shape he face, and he will most probably be motivated now and atleast keep some decent shape.

    Fury is feather fisted and was in a big layout, and look very bad in his last fights, thats why Wilder wanted to face him. He did think that Fury would be an easy job and he will have a big name in his resume, but that wasn`t the case first time around. I don`t care what official record said, everyone with a sense of brain know that Wilder lost that fight.

    But to come on original topic. The best way for US to understand if Wilder power is real or not is to fight Ruiz, then we will see how he really can handle inside fighting, because Ruiz is very hard to clinch and if his power is real, when he try it on Ruiz mandible. And of course if Wilder chin stood to the challenge.

    As i said i want to see that fight, and i think a lot of other people after the Fury fight. Ruiz will have 1 win in that time and i don`t see a reason why this fight to not happen.
    You can mark my comments that if this fight happen i will give Wilder biggest props for fighting Ruiz and if he took a WIN even more props.

    And P.P. I never really rate Fury high. Yeah he beat and old and washed Klitschko, and then he run from the rematch, which for me took all of his credibility. As well as his fights are nothing special.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Hopefully the reason that you got banned was this post.

    No, dude. Ruiz > Bermane and its obvious.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Fury > Ruiz, agree. But with those two the results depend on whether they walked past a hotdog stand on the way to the fight or not. The fitness standards in todays HW division are horrible.
     
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  14. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Everyone thinks that Wilder lost to Fury, everyone is telling him that he lost and he would’ve officially lost without the KD in the last round. You can’t say Wilder thinks Fury is easy in the same breath as saying that he lost the first fight(I aslo had Fury winning the first fight, which is why I was glad to see Wilder go after the rematch). You can’t possibly think that a guy who already beat you is easy. And knowing all that, he wanted the immadiate rematch even before Fury looked bad against Wallin. And talk about looking bad, go watch how Ruiz looked against the corpse of KingPin last year.

    The reason why I’m bringing up Ruiz’s shape is to point out how bad he was. The worst version of Fury(probably the one in the Seferi fight after the lay off) would beat that 280+ lbs Ruiz.

    If Wilder beats Fury in the rematch, he should step up to Joshua, not step down to Ruiz.
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder won`t step up to Joshua. That fight won`t happen 100%.