As in taking the place of Jeffries. How many? So at their best, how many people do you favour to go undefeated through this schedule? Gus Ruhlin 2* Joe Choynski Joe Goddard Peter Jackson (shot) Tom Sharkey 2* Bob Fitzsimmons 2* (past prime) John Finnegan James J Corbett 2* Over 15 rounds as normal fantasy match ups a piece.
Sharkey 2x and the Fitzsimmons rematch are definitely the biggest threats. Anyone in my top 20 Heavyweights could get through it undefeated (with the possible exception of Patterson). I reckon a few others too, I'd favor the likes of Ibeabuchi and Vitali through it even though they're not top 20.
Lennox Lewis Muhammad Ali Larry Holmes Mike Tyson George Foreman Sonny Liston Wladimir Klitschko Joe Frazier Riddick Bowe Joe Louis Evander Holyfield Vitali Klitschko Ike Ibeabuci Jack Dempsey David Tua Chris Byrd Tyson Fury Max Schmeling Corrie Sanders Rocky Marciano Deontay Wilder Anthony Joshua Jersey Joe Walcott Ray Mercer Tim Witherspoon Dillian Whyte Ron Lyle Max Baer Frank Bruno Sam Peter Alexander Povetkin Jimmy Young Joseph Parker Renaldo Snipes Ken Norton Kubrat Pulev Hasim Rahman Nikolai Valuev Luis Ortiz Trevor Berbick Harry Wills And then the CWs... Oleksandr Usyk David Haye Mairis Briedis Murat Gassiev Denis Lebedev Marco Huck Vasily Jirov James Toney Jean Marc Mormeck Juan Carlos Gomez Then the LHWs... Ezzard Charles Michael Spinks Gene Tunney Roy Jones Jr Archie Moore Harry Greb I appreciate it takes a lot of dedication to go undefeated over a long stretch of time in any era, but at their best... There's alot of guys who can.
Well anybody in the top 1000 beats Finnegan and thoes versions of Jackson and Goddard would lose to any top 500 man. You can't really say guys at their best, the likes of Mercer, Peter, Huck, Sanders, Berbick, Parker and a host more would'nt get through that lot on some of their off days. Fitz, I can see defeating a lot of your boys. Most though of a top 30 would accomplish the feat with reasonably luck.
I would not assume that anybody in history, could have beaten those opponents, in that time frame! This is one of the hardest runs for a novice fighter, in the history of the sport!
Even with somebody like Muhamad Ali, he would be getting fed to better fighters sooner, with far less amateur background, and probably meeting somebody like Cooper or Jones sooner. You have got Hank Griffin for the pro debut aged 19, then he is inactive until he is 21, when he comes back against Dan Long. A year after that he is fighting Gus Ruhlin. Two months later he is fighting Joe Choynski, who beat Jack Johnson remember. He ends up fighting Bob Fitzsimmons for the title, with only a dozen professional fights. I think that is quite an ask for any young fighter.
Tbh I think you've missed the point of the thread, mate. I said at their "best", meaning they are at optimal condition and on their a game from their career best performance for each fight.
Then probably a fair few. the thing is that Jeffries was not at his best for most of these fights. He was probably only at his peak for the last couple of them!
How many could have done it with a similar amateur career and pro fights? Probably very few pre 1980. John L Sullvian - Never fought this class. Not likley or proven Corbett - did fight others and lost some. No Johnson was KO'd clean by Choynski, lost to Klondike, lost to Hart and had too many draws. A no. Dempsey, well he wasn't that good in his early professional days. A no Tunney, not likely, I have some of his early fights, he really improved a lot. A no. Louis. A maybe, but with that defense and chin, probably would lose one Marciano Depends on how raw he was as a young pro. Not likely