What was the reason for Mayorgas' intense hatred for Oscar de la Hoya?

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  1. drronnie

    drronnie Member Full Member

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    He made some real nasty pre fight comments and even wanted to "fight for free" just to beat de la Hoya up. It seems though that he over trained and did poorly in the actual. Was the hatred exeaggerated or was it just his antics to attract viewers?
     
  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure but I derived great pleasure in watching Oscar beat the **** out of him on account of that very behaviour.
     
  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably a little of both, most Fighters that are considered " Media Darlings" usually generate a lot of animosity. Especially from fighters from Latin American countries who usually see them as soft, and having prestige and tons of money thrown at them without really earning it the way most Latin American fighters have. It's that macho tough guy Culture that most Latin fighters have. And some was just being who he was an ass, because he behaved that way against most of his opponents. Especially S.Moseley.
     
  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    He had an irrational hatred of fishnets and high heels.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Could have been to hype the bout.
     
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  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    although in this case, if true, it would seem quite rational and I can’t fault him.
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra VIP Member Full Member

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    Well, if Ricky wasn't so darn kwazy, I'd agree with you.
     
  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    There are plenty of reasons to hate De La Hoya lol, I find it harder to believe that people actually like him
     
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  9. Juan carlos

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    Mayorga was always like that. I remember that he slapped a television driver who really hates him is Oscar de la Hoya. That guy hates him. fighter
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

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    There's plenty of reasons to like him as a fighter, but plenty of reasons to not like him in any other situation.
     
  11. PernellSweetPea

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    Mayorga seemed to like to get into scuffles. I thought he was overrated a bit. He was wild and had success getting good fighters out of rhythm, but he didn't beat many guys except Forrest really. It was all hype.
     
  12. Furey

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    Man, Oscar beat the **** out of him.
     
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  14. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayorga really did take his trash talk to another level, mostly going too far. He promised to knock out Vernon Forrest and then give Forrest a job cleaning his yard in Nicaragua. He promised to kill Cory Spinks in the ring and send him to heaven to be with Spinks' dead mother.
     
  15. Flo_Raiden

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    Dan Rafael

    LAS VEGAS -- Junior middleweight titlist Ricardo Mayorga always has trash talked his opponents.

    He promised to knock out Vernon Forrest and then give Forrest a job cleaning his yard in Nicaragua. He promised to kill Cory Spinks in the ring and send him heaven to be with Spinks' dead mother.

    The rhetoric against De La Hoya has been just as vicious in the buildup to their fight Saturday night (HBO PPV, 9 ET) at the MGM Grand. But what is different about Mayorga's verbal abuse this time is that he is also professing deep hatred for De La Hoya, despite having scarcely met him.

    When asked why, Mayorga offered some reasons with some classic venom:

    "Simply put, I really just don't like him," Mayorga said. "I just don't like him on a personal level. You know, I've always had disdain toward him and especially now that he's going to fight with me. So just to prove that, and I'll repeat what I said before in prior interviews and in the press tour, is I want to stop his heart. I not only want to stop him, I want to stop his heart or detach his retina, one of the two. I really want to do damage to him."

    OK, then.

    Mayorga was not done, though.

    "Just like when you go back to the school yard, there's a kid that you never met once in your life," he said. "You see him, you've never spoken to the kid, but you just don't like him. That's the best analogy I can use, I just don't like him. There's really no explanation behind it."

    Mayorga goes into Saturday's bout vs. Oscar De La Hoya as the champion, yet his dislike for De La Hoya appears to run deeper. Ethan Miller/Getty Images De La Hoya has fought so many big fights and heard so much talk, that he said it doesn't bother him. In fact, De La Hoya said that Mayorga's vitriol has motivated him more for the fight.

    "Well it's not that I don't like him, or I hate him," De La Hoya said. "I don't even know the guy. It's just ever since he started disrespecting me, disrespecting my wife, disrespecting my family, he insulted my heritage -- when opponents talk like that, you have to defend yourself. And the way I'm going to defend myself is in the ring and teach him a lesson. All this anger and hatred toward me started when we started shooting the commercial for the fight. You know he started talking to my face and this and that, and in a press conference he slapped me across the head. You don't do things like that.

    "Show some respect here. This guy is pumping me up so much. He has just got under my skin. He hasn't got into my head, but he's got under my skin, and he made me train as hard as I can to really teach him a lesson."

    One of the reasons for Mayorga's feelings toward De La Hoya is the fact that De La Hoya twice ravaged Julio Cesar Chavez, Mayorga's boxing idol.

    "Chavez was one of my great idols," he said. "When he faced Oscar, that's a perfect example of why I don't like him. Oscar was pretty much in his prime and Chavez was well past his prime and at that point, when I remember seeing him beat Chavez up, I remember saying to myself that I was going to avenge his loss and make him pay for what he did to one of these great idols, his own Mexican idol. And I will make sure that I'm going to detach his retina or stop his heart."

    'Danger Zone' notes

    De La Hoya on immigration: De La Hoya, whose family came from Mexico to East Los Angeles as illegal immigrants before he was born, has rarely spoken out on hot political issues. However, he talked this week about his feelings on the illegal immigration controversy enveloping the nation.

    De La Hoya, who seamlessly moves from Spanish to English in his press conferences, believes that immigrants should at least learn English if they want to live here.

    "When immigrants come to this country they come to work," he said. "My family came illegally. They came to work. It's not easy to get a green card. Obviously, you have to work for it. You have to spend time here in this country. You have to respect the flag. You have to speak English. It's part of being in America. I understand that and that's what people should understand. I think this is the land of opportunity. It gave me the opportunity and I really appreciate it."

    Hanging on: While De La Hoya, 33, plans to retire before the end of the year -- either after Saturday's fight or following a potential Sept. 16 fight -- he thinks two of his peers have hung around too long.

    He said he is saddened to see superstars Roy Jones Jr. and Evander Holyfield still pursuing their boxing careers with severely diminished skills at advanced ages.

    "Those guys are making a big, big mistake," De La Hoya said. "Roy Jones is 37, 38. Holyfield is in his 40s. They are making big mistakes. You can obviously see that they do not belong in the ring, especially Roy Jones [having been] knocked out twice [in three consecutive losses]. Evander Holyfield worries me a lot because he is taking unnecessary punishment. It's dangerous and I really feel for him."

    Jones and Holyfield could appear together on a pay-per-view card on July 29.

    De La Hoya said he thinks at least part of their reason for continuing to fight is financial.

    "I really truly feel it has something to do with their financial situation," he said. "They have made a lot of money, but they spend a lot of money also, and when you retire those big purses aren't coming in anymore. And when you are so used to spending so much and you have cars and you have homes and you have 500 roosters (like Jones), how are you going to feed them?

    "Evander has what, nine kids? And if you don't have the right people behind you making sure you are investing well, then you have to keep on fighting. I think that has something to do with it."

    Cutting down: Anyone who has followed Mayorga's career knows that he loves to smoke and drink beer.

    Mayorga said he has been able to cut out the beer drinking while training. Smoking, however, is another story.

    "Right now I'm smoking about three to four cigarettes per day as opposed to two or three packs a day when I'm not training," he said.