Literally the only reason you hate on Crawford or any other boxer especially Americans is because they're a threat to pac.
Bradley was a threat to Pac, yet Bradley is one of my all time favorite fighters. Even after the robbery I was still a fan of Bradley. Most people have Lomachenko schooling (and stopping Pac if they fought), yet I'm a huge Lomachenko fan and praying that the fight happens. Mikey also is supposed to "Marquez" Pac and I want that fight to happen.
You find loma threat. Btw i think pac stops loma if they fought back when loma said he had no interest in pac because he was old.
It's my opinion that Pac stops Lomachenko in a brutal one sided affair even now whether it's 135 or a catchweight. Most guys say that they can't go down in weight. Pac said with zero hesitation that he can make 135. Beltran and Thurman both said that Pac's a lightweight. Mikey even said Pac is the same guy whether at 135, 140, or 147.
1. Terrence Crawford 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Errol Spence Jr. 4. Shawn Porter 5. Keith Thurman 6. Danny Garcia 7. Yordenis Ugas 8. Vergil Ortiz Jr. 9. Egidijus Kavaliauskas 10. Sergey Lipinets 11. Jamal James 12. Alexander Besputin 13. Thomas Dulorme 14. Kudratillo Abdukakhorov 15. David Avanesyan
He's in all likelihood done at 147, but even if he isn't, he has one match and one loss at welterweight.
Manny Crawford Spence One Time Porter Manny's resume at 147>>Crawford's and Spence's. I don't count robbery wins as legit so Manny's 2 losses against Horn and Timachenko are wins for him. So Manny only has incurred one loss in the last seven years and that was against the consensus #2 fighter of his generation the great Floyd Mayweather. During that time he has wins over One Time Timachenko x 2 Horn (unofficial) Vargas Algieri Lucas Broner Rios One Time had been inactive and didn't look great in his previous fight but he's a very big puncher and he would've been about 2 weight classes or close to it if not heavier than Manny Lucas was way past his best Broner was coming off a draw and a loss Rios was coming off a loss You can argue that some of those guys are not natural 147 pounders either. However, that argument falls flat on its face as soon as you factor in that neither is Manny and even most of the ones who weren't still outweighed him by a least a whole division Manny was giving away a lot of weight to almost all those guys, at least a whole weight class and even as much as two to a number of them And Manny didn't have home advantage for any of those fights or home refs and judges either Crawford has wins at 147 over Horn Khan Benavidez Egis Horn never should've held the belt in the first place because Manny was robbed Khan was way past his best, had only fought twice in three years and one of those fights was a 39 second blow out. He was dropped heavily in the other by a light hitting KO 32% glorified journeyman and lucky the bell came to his rescue or he might have been on the receiving end of a KO2 loss Benavidez is a peg-leg cripple whose gammy leg is a complete mess and is it clearly hinders him a great deal. 'Five months later, veteran strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza began working with the Benavidez camp. He was supposed to focus on David, but he found himself increasingly drawn to Junior, who seemed intent on proving that he could still fight professionally. This wasn't the brash boy Ariza remembered from back in the day, showing off his newest car or his latest tattoo at the Wild Card. This was a man with the scars -- visible and otherwise -- to prove it: a helix of staple traces winding around his knee, above the tattoo of Santa Muerte, Our Lady of Holy Death. How can he fight? Ariza thought to himself. He's barely walking. The femur had been shattered. Muscle and scar tissue had braided together, like a root. Now, to ensure that the quadriceps fired properly, they had to be separated by needling, cupping and deep tissue work. The trainer had worked with some brave champions: Diego Corrales, Erik Morales, Marcos Maidana and Manny Pacquiao. But he had never seen an athlete endure that sustained level of pain. "It's like pulling the skin from your body," Ariza said. "He'd just bite down, not to cry, not to show weakness. The doctor would ask if he wanted to take a break. He'd say no. He'd get this blank stare, like he was going somewhere far away." This content is protected Egis arguably lost to Ray Robinson in his previous fight. The general consensus seems to be that he did lose that fight albeit I actually had him winning. Crawford weighed more down at 140 three years ago than Horn did against him and Khan and Egis would've weighed roughly the same as Crawford or almost as much as him. Benavidez did look the bigger man against Crawford but I'm not sure what their respective weighs were. But Crawford was rehydrating as much 18lbs down at 135 and 17lbs at 140 and he's clearly doing the same up at 147 because he looks noticeably bigger now that he's campaigning at that weight and his S&C said they worked on that a lot, so the weight difference between them would've only been a few pounds if there was one at all. Spence has beaten Brook Porter Mikey Algieri Peterson Brook was coming of a stoppage loss, a bad beating, a terrible eye injury, gruesome surgery to repair it, and back down from 160 after bulking up to fight up there Porter should've been coming off a loss to Ugas These are the only two world class welterweights Spence has fought and he struggled badly against both Mikey is a blown up 135 pounder fighting in his fifth weight class, one he'd never fought in before, and who has about as much right being in as Spence does being down at 135 Peterson is career 140 pounder featherfist who should've been 1-2 in his last 3 Algieri is a career 140 pounder Paulie level featherfist who was 1-2 in his last 3 And Crawford and Spence had home advantage in all bar one of those fights, the sole exception being Brook Manny is beating up guys that have huge weight and reach advantages on him, like by one or two divisions, and he's beating them on the road, Spence and Crawford are beating guys who are at worst the same size as them or a lot naturally smaller than them. Spence and Crawford would have to move up to at least 154 to contend with those kind of physical disadvantages or maybe even higher so what Manny's doing is far more impressive for me, and even more so when you factor in age. Manny's not going life and death with opponents his own size like Spence is, he's whooping the asses of much naturally bigger fighters and if he is struggling against them to the extent Spence did against Brook and Porter, don't forget he's giving away a ton of weight, reach and is old enough to be their fathers. And I haven't even included Manny's pre 2012 wins at 147 over Cotto, Oscar and Shane (he also has a a win at 154 against Margarito) /thread Serge destroys
1. Bud 2. Spence 3. Porter 4. Pac 5. Thurman Even manny knows he can't compete with those top two. If he did, he would fight one of them. You know that they would be glad to take that huge payday.....Pac is looking for someone he can beat. Does anyone really think he is going to fight Spence or Crawford? I don't think so.
