I am convinced that Klitschko 2008-2013 beats Joshua and Wilder at least 8 times out of 10. However, Fury's style should always be difficult for him.
From fighters who have sparred and fought him, Wlad's power was real. I think it's definitely on the same level as Wilder's. Watch the Chris Byrd vid when he compares the power of both Klit brothers. He leaves you in no doubt what he thinks of Wlad's power.
If it's the very cautious version Of Wlad I think he loses to Fury again. He beats Joshua in a very competitive fight where both meet the canvas. He beats Wilder if he goes for the KO, But if he tries to box him to a decision he is KOed in brutal fashion. He stops Whyte Wins a decision or late KO over Ortiz in an extremely boring fight. Jabs Ruiz to death And KOs Usyk while down on points
So many noobs here with no idea about boxing. Wlad prime (31 -36) would beat these guys: Wilder - 8 out of 10 times by brutal ko Joshua - easy win for wlad (he has way more speed and stamina than when he could joshua) Fury - difficult fight for wlad, fury wins 6 out of 10 Parker - easy win for wlad Whyte - wlad brutally beats whyte Usyk - very difficult fight, wlad 75% winning Ruiz - would get jabbed to death by wlad
40 years old Klitschko barely lost to Fury, because Fury was with 2-3 punches more active per round. Any version that is with atleast 3+ year younger will KO Fury and send him into the oblivion. Fury is nothing special. And i`m pretty sure Joshua will stop him. Klitschko has lost a lot of speed, cardio, his output was way lower, footwork and explosivness was slower, even in the Pulev fight he was far away from his prime, even his jab was at 50% probably, nothing like before. Not to mention he clearly doesn`t have a real coach, because lets be real Banks is a joke. Klitschko also looked bad against Bryant Jennings, but that was because of the age as well, and that fight was 5 months before Fury bout. The so call jab and grab is a complete b.c. He has some bad matches with more than normal clinches for the HW, but he lately was relying more on the clinching, because his cardio level was dropping, because of the age. Neither Wilder, neither Joshua have a chance. Tho Joshua is still young and we can judge him, when his career is over. He may very well improve a lot in the next few years. The gyy is beast and really train hard and is motivated to improve. I think Klitschko with Manny from 2007-2012 is a very hard man to beat and very few ot the HW in the history may his prime version with Manny beside him.
One of those "knockdowns" against Peter was a push and another was from a rabbit punch. Ref did a poor job.
Wlad did very well against other men in his own size range: Austin, McCline, Thompson x 2, Wach, etc.
Against Fury, Wlad showed that he is out of place against fighters his own size. Against Fury, a guy that Steve Cunningham took to the brink of death, Wlad appeared like he had no idea how to fight, and had never thrown hands before, because his ridiculous size and reach advantage were of no use to him in that fight. Against AJ, a guy who would go on to quit and get stopped against a fat slob who doesnt even know what country he's from, all Wlad did was a lot of bouncing around on his heels. His methodical, destructive, walk you down with jab after jab was no where to be found. Even after AJ gassed out, Wlad still couldn't help but leaving his chin all exposed up in the air, and nearly paid with his life for such an amaturistic mistake. I shutter to think what a bona fide KO machine like Deontay Wilder would do to Wlad. It is painfully obvious that Wlads dominance can be attributed to his great size advantage. He was looked his best against guys like Chris Byrd. The HW division has since evolved and the top fighters of today are all easily 6'5 or bigger. Wlad's once vaunted jab would serve as little more than an annoying mosquito, buzzing in the face of today's HWs. Wlad has nothing to offer in the face of such men. Not now, not ever. He would be a top 7-10 HW at best, as long as he stays clear of Wilder, AJ, even Fury. He could probably get by feasting on the Joseph Parkers and Andy Ruiz's and Usyk's of the division, but thats about it
Sheer size? How about his fights with 6'6'' Jefferson, McCline, Austin all of whom were heavier than Wlad? How about his fight against 6'8'' Mariusz Wach? Against Fury Wlad was 39 y.o. and had 67-fights career, against Joshua he was 41 y.o. and had 68-fights career. Lennox Lewis was tabbed as washed up at 37 y.o. and 43-fights career, so how Wlad being 2 years older than Lennox was against Vitali, and having 24-25 fights (and hard training camps) more wasn't washed up when he fought Fury and AJ? If you think that 2015 version of Wlad was a prime version of Wlad, it's beyond ridiculous. And yes, Wlad wiould destroy low-skilled puncher Wilder. Probably not as easily as he did in sparring, because Wilder was still green then, but the difference in skills and IQ between Wlad and Wilder is enormous.
Exactly. Jefferson, McCline, Austin and Wach. Bums. Glorified journeymen. Against HW's his size and with good skill (Fury and AJ) he got found out. Wlad was old then ?? He was past his best but let's not forget AJ was a 16 fight novice and Fury hadn't beaten a top 15 HW when he faced Wlad. So things even themselves out for me. If Wlad was in his prime now he'd do well but no way would he dominate thankfully like he did in the past.
You mean that 40 year old Povetkin and 40 year old Pulev are better then when they were 30? Or 50 year old Ortiz is better then 40 year old Ortiz? The funny thing is that lots of fighters from Wlad's era are still here and still in top 5 top 10, like Povetkin, Chisora, Pulev, Ortiz etc.. even Wach just had a close fight with Whyte. Wlad already showed that at 41 is competitive with AJ. Prime Wlad would be undisputed in this era. Him and Vitaly would dominate.
Are you seriously putting the likes of Ray Austin, Jamel Mcline and Marius Wach up there with AJ and Wilder?
