Steve Collins v Kelly Pavlik

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Two very tough men who takes this at Middleweight? I lean towards Collins because he's Irish so I'm biased.
     
  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you in Ireland?
     
  3. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Collins was better and he beat better comp. Convincing decision for the Cabra man.
     
  5. Fergy

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    Collins beats him over 12, Steve could be raw in the ring but he throws himself at Pavlik and gets a decision.
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Collins works him over pretty good. Pavlik's hands are slow as molasses. Collins clear UD
     
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  7. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kelly too tall too strong and hits way too hard for Collins.
     
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  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a good matchup, but I like Collins here.

    For one, Collins was physically stronger than Pavlik, and that alone would throw Kelly off.

    Plus, his awkward style figures to throw off a conventional, one-two puncher like Pavlik. And of course, Collins had the chin to handle Kelly's power.

    I can't see a stoppage either way, both were very tough... but I see Collins scoring more and doing more damage, especially down the stretch.

    Collins by decision.
     
  9. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Collins iron chin and relentless high pressure work rate too much for Pavlik.
    Collins pts.
     
  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collins was not stronger then Kelly.
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I have to disagree
     
  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like both guys, but Kelly is just bigger and better for my money!
     
  13. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I respect Collins but who did he ever over power?
    What boxer did he KO with one shot?
    His two biggest wins- Eubank and Benn who BOTH were past it.
    And if Eubank hurt him Kelly will knock him out.
     
  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Pavlik has some of the slowest hands I've seen at that weight class. Not a very high ring IQ IMO either.
     
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  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he was. Collins was considerably physically stronger than Pavlik.

    He didn't hit as hard, but he was stronger.
     
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