How many amateur bouts should a boxer have before they is ready to turn pro?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How many amatuer fights should a boxder have before turning pro so that they have mastered enough craft to develop as a pro? Which current pros got this right and have benefitted from a good amateur background in today`s game?
     
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  2. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd Jr and GGG are good example of decorated amateur boxers that went pro. There's boxers like Wilder or Chad Dawson that picked up boxing late and didn't go amateur first as well. It's up to the boxer honestly.
     
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  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    anything over 30 is a waste of time IMO
     
  4. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder won a bronze medal in the Olympics, so Wilder had amateur experience, he did pick up boxing late though.
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma had one of the greatest amateur careers GGG and Floyd didn`t win gold at the olympics.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma was far more ready than any amateur that has had 30 fights, surely olympic level amateurs would be more seasoned.
     
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Provided they are talented like Loma! remember Wilder's trainer was heralded as the best amateur for decades....but when he turned pro?!
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma was also trained from a young age by his father who is obsessed with detail, he even took Loma out of boxing for two years to lear Ukranian dancing to improve his footwork.
     
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  9. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    He should one up Floyd and show him how to actually win at Dancing With The Stars then!
     
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  10. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It all depends on how long it takes them to master glute activation.
     
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  11. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whenever they feel ready. But you wanna gain as much experience against as many different styles and talents as you can before you turn pro. Official amateur fights -- at least 25-50. The best amateurs typically eclipse 100 official amateur fights. Keep in mind that you will have fought in an absolute load of smokers as well which aren't "official" amateur fights.
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wait Jay deas was a great amateur?
     
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  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    30 is pretty minimal imo. I know a lot of guys with 30 bouts who you could say is still learning their craft.

    Joshua is a classic example of someone with minimal amateur experience and he had always looked less natural than a seasoned pro, like a guy learning on the job.

    After 100 bouts it becomes redundant, you’ve fought different styles, you’ve fought the best in the world, you’ve fought at the big stage in olympics - you’ve dealt with just about every scenario you would need to deal with as a pro.

    The only mystery left is do you have what it takes to adapt to pro rules: longer fight, good chin, good enough power and concentration for 12 rounds. If you do, you’ll be as good a pro as you were an amateur if not better, if not, you’ll simply be worse.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Dawson actually took up boxing when he was young

    'Discuss your decision to choose boxing, and how your athleticism in basketball (and other sports) helped shape you into a World Champion.

    Chad Dawson - “I decided to take up the sport of boxing because my father was a boxer and he introduced me to the sport when I was 4 years old. He couldn’t take his career to the next level because he had a family to look after. I have six siblings, four brothers and two sisters, so you could imagine how tough it was trying to make ends meet for him. My brothers and I spent a lot of time training in the gym with my dad and I fell in love with the sport at a young age. Once I started fighting amateur, I really believed I could be one of the best, because it was such a natural feeling for me to be in the ring.'


    'Dawson, the son of a prizefighter, said he began boxing at 8 years old, following in his father’s footsteps. He began to study under Brian Clark, the trainer at Ring One gym, and fell in love with the sport.


    The gym provided a home away from home, Dawson said — something to do after school each day and a place of refuge when he needed it.

    “I want kids to feel that same experience that I felt — having a place to come. If something’s not working over here, you can always come here and feel wanted and loved,” said Dawson. “I always had that growing up.”

    “I’m a fighter. I’ve been doing this since I was 8 years old; my father was a professional fighter. It runs in my blood. A year ago, I was sure I wasn’t going to fight again — a year ago. But now, I’ve got the little itch, like I want to fight again,” said Dawson. “I just sit back and watch fights on TV, watching guys fight in the ring, I really believe I could beat these guys. But we’ll see.”
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Hasim Rahman didn't take up the sport until he was 20 y/o and he only had 10 amateur fights. By the time he'd had 40 fights he'd fought Lennox Lewis x 2, Holyfield, Corrie Sanders, David Tua, John Ruiz, and Oleg Maskaev among others. Conversely, by the time Bootleg Dorticos, who had 35 amateur fights and won bronze at the Olympics, had 40 fights he'd only fought OAP Ortiz who was a couple of weeks shy of his 39th birthday and Bermane 'B.Sick' Stiverne.
     
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