What's next for Andy Ruiz jr?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dress his next opponent as a Chalupa, or a 250 pound Snickers bar. Ken Norton was hypnotized before the 1st Ali fight in 1973, Ruiz could be hypnotized in believing his adversary is a huge 12 course meal. He will knockout his opponent fast.
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably true. But hes good enough to be around that top 5 taking some good scalps if he takes it seriously. But looking over his boxrec...i m not sure hes ever really took his diet and nutrition/sport science side of things seriously. His weights all over the place. Started his debut off at something like 291 lbs. From there its anywhere between 240 to 285. Its erratic as well. Down to 250 for 2 fights. Then up to 280 the next for example. How hes got to the level hes at is a small miracle in itself.

    Wasting his talent tho. For me he,d always give joshua problems with his style....just not turning up at 283 without a proper training camp he doesnt. Fury and wilder would beat any version of ruiz...outside of them two i m not sure any one else beats a strong....andy ruiz that takes the game seriously....who,s invested in himself. If he doesnt beat them He at least matches up with most of them. Could be in the game for another 7 or 8 years if he wanted to. Ruiz can really fight...hes better trained technically that most of the heavyweights...his sport science/dedication is a comllete joke tho.
     
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  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is definitely wasting his talent. he was lucky to get an iffy decision vs Sergfei Liakhovich's ghost not that long ago.
     
  4. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Next for Ruiz?

    Sunday lunch?

    Low hanging fruit, right?
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah he was too fat.
    He could be heavier than most & might be at his ideal at ~ 235, & thus ~25% body fat.
    But morbidly obese? This means literally at least 100% above his ideal body weight. Even if we take ideal to (fairly) mean less than his ideal fighting weight., to be 15% bf...
    That would be ~208 lbs.
    Which would mean he would need to be 416 to be morbidly obese.
    Without the belt, shoes, somebrero & whatever might be in his pockets or under his shirt, lol!

    So he would have to be something over 133 lbs. heavier to have been morbidly obese.
    Even moderately obese, 50% over his ideal weight, is something he could have cleared by a little bit...
    If he had only the muscle of an average man at his height.
    Not nearly so if you took what his real ideal weight is.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopefully suicide.
     
  7. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Now we have a bunch of immature, vicious when safely anonymous posters.
    Some get banned regularly & return under their or another moniker.

    But that is really dark & unnecessary man.
    He tried his best in his big moment. But Ruiz has a weight problem, likely psychological & his body is physically resistant to weight loss.

    But to drily wish him dead by his own hand because a kind & seemingly humble family man did not condition himself to your personal satisfaction....

    Is this really the kind of man you want to be?
     
  8. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The difference between an obese pigman like Ruiz and some other fatty wonders at top level like Tyson 'KFC eating contests with my bro' Fury, Ricky Fatton, BJ 'Deep Fried Hedgehog' Saunders ... is that these other fighters still have the discipline to put themselves through fat camps and show up to big fights in shape, and to tune-ups at least functional. They also know when they're fat messes instead of pretending it's natural and 'their best weight'.

    Ruiz is not only in denial, he's proven to be incapable of compensating for his gluttony with gruelling fat camps. And if he can't do this in his prime, he'll only get worse as his 30s tick on.

    He has enough experience, chin and skill to beat a certain level, but I doubt he ever beats a top fighter or champion again. He's definitely not beating Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Parker. These fighters can all box and move, and if Wilder gets confused he can just move and land his bomb at some point. Other young up and coming fighters with engines and movement would probably beat him too.