Attn: pro boxers. Please stay in your lane (and your most naturally-fitting weight class). Thanks.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    All this up and down in weight and catch-weight nonsense just muddies the waters (as far as which victories are or aren't creditable, or how much). Everyone just STFU about paydays and fight whoever is your own size. Or if you're small and want to gamble for glory, fine, head on up ..but go all the way up, no cw or rehydration clauses or anything. Don't invite the bigger guy down, EVER. That is always just a punk ***** move. Same goes for big guys who just happen to be able to make huge weight cuts and then put a ton back on without adverse draining effects and demolish naturally far smaller guys.

    Everybody just knock it off, the nonsense makes this sport unbearable.

    Yeah, whatever, "this is prizefighting, we fight over a prize", and that's your prerogative and only real priority and concern - fine. But you do so at the behest & pleasure and strictly by the graces of the audiences who pay for you to do so. And speaking on behalf of the vast majority of the global boxing audience, we're sick to death of the bs. Keep it up and there won't be any more prizes. There are other sports.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    I can think of two active fighters (both of whom just happen to be Mexicans, although I certainly don't have some broad agenda of anti-Mexican sentiment; my all-time favorite is MAB, ffs...) who most prominently exemplify both of these archetypes, and both of their surnames end with "-ez". :deal:
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Give ya one more hint if you're lost: they fought each other a couple of years ago. ;)
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    As a rule I hate catchweights. Really the only point of them is to scheme and get an advantage. I suppose in some extreme cases it does make a little sense. Like if a fighter is coming up a bajillion weight classes and wants to shed some body down a few pounds to make a more fair fight. But then you weakened your opponent possibly so there is that to consider.

    The vast majority of fights a catchweight is ridiculous. The best example of a plausible and reasonable catchweight was Pac vs Cotto at 145 due to the ridiculous amount of classes Pac climbed. But considering how the fight turned out Pac probably would have beaten Cotto easily at 147 as well. Maybe wouldn't have scored the 12th round KO, but who knows.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Exactly. And I agree, Pac would've won anyway. And it would be a tenfold more respectable win if he had just assumed the slightly greater risk and done it the more honorable way.
     
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  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The old "I'm not racist one of my friends is black" defense. lol
     
  7. Oakland Billy Smith

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    Well, i hear people complain all the time that we have too many weight classes, and I tend to.agree.
    In that sense i do not have a problem with catchweight fights. If a fighter can get a bigger payday and give the fans a fight they want to see, im all for it.
    The only issue I take is when one fighter rehydrates to the point where they have an unfair size advantage.
    But that happens in non catchweight fights as well
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    @IntentionalButt

    I know I'm in the minority here, but we need a 187 pound division. But, but, but.... more belts, more corruption, more ducking, blah, blah, blah, whine all you want, I don't care. If there's a need, there's a need.

    From 105-130 we have 8 weight classes. I'd cut that down to about 4-5 classes and do away with 105 all together. I don't know any grown man who could make 105. I don't know any grown men who could make 108 either. I suppose if I went to Thailand or Peru I could find some, but eh... talent pool is pretty damn shallow regardless. My interest wanes big time below 118 or 122.

    From 175-200 we have 1 weight class. Yea I get it, percentages regarding body mass come into play too, but still. It's too big of a jump. If say 5'11" Artur Beterbiev wanted to try his luck against some bigger guys, but just doesn't have the frame to go all the way to 200 where guys are rehydrating to 215 I could see myself giving him some slack if he has a catchweight of 197 or thereabouts. I still wouldn't like it at all, but if there was a 187 class there would be no need.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    STFU, clown. That was to preemptively nip in the bud any idiots chirping in with assumptions that I just have beef with Mexicans (hey, get it? :deal: Mexican beef?) because the pair of divas I'm criticizing are coincidentally from the same country. You know full well how 99% of stupid ass boxing fans belong in their little "camps" and every word they spew out comes in service of some agenda either directly or by vicarious proxy (and you know because you are one)
     
  10. ashishwarrior

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    Froch knew where his strengths were and stuck to 168
    Kessler also although i think he might have had a fight above but generally stuck where his strengths were
     
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  11. ElCyclon

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    Thou protest too much(typical hypocrite). Don't have a cow man(hey get it? Mexican Beef?).
     
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  12. tinman

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    Kessler was smaller than Froch was. He could have made 160 throughout his prime if he was inclined and committed to a weight cut. In my opinion, Kessler was a naturally smaller man than Bernard Hopkins.
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Those are two honorable men.
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    He didn't look significantly larger than Mundine when they fought, and Choc fought a good chunk of his career at 154.
     
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  15. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Totally agree with the TS.

    Hate catch weights, rehydration clauses, imaginary weight classes like 155....