This version of fury is only 50 percent of pre wlad

Fury already sealed his place in heavyweight history when he beat the man who couldn’t be beaten, the eleven year undefeated super champion version of ATG VLAD in his own backyard to take the prestigious lineage and ring belt.

He’ll be remembered as a once in a generational talent for sure and had he got the decision against Wilder he’d be firmly in the ATG discussions for those two wins alone.

unfortunately history is going to show a DRAW and most likely a ktfo loss next month against wilder and I predict a retirement for fury as he realises his legs are shot.

he may come back for one more to school AJ at Wembley for some domestic marbles but in historic terms, his resume is pretty much done.

 

That's what makes the rematch so comical. I hope Sylvester Stallone awards Deontay that Rocky Balboa belt, after he brutally KO's the gypsy king. He deserves it.

 

People writing off Fury are idiots.

Fury is a fighting man, he's been bred to fight from an early age.

He has no quit in him. Fury will never spit out his gum shield like Joshua would.

 

I don’t think anyone is suggesting fury has any of that Joshua quit in him, simply that if wilder lands that ancestral right, it’s goodnight morecambe bay this time

 

If you think Fury will be as static as Ortiz or Brezeale then you're off your head.

I was at the first fight and one thing you notice with Fury is that his head never stops moving. I now know why Wlad wouldn't release the trigger, his head movement is off putting.

Fury will be more cautious in this fight. He's tasted Wilder's power. He will shut Wilder out imo...

 

Hopefully Sugarhill can get Tyson's inside game back to where it once was. I'm personally glad he's switched trainer. I think it was a wise decision, albeit a bit late in the day.

 

Tyson Fury steps it up against live opponents, so he defo can win

 

Fury has never had the best chin but he’s hard to put away and always rises to the occasion.

I fancy Wilder to finish him this time but wouldn’t surprise me at all if he won. Hope he wins would be fantastic

 

This one is intriguing because I don't think Fury is going in as the underdog. Fury has had 2 big fights in his career and was the underdog, away from home, in both.

In relation to the OP, the Fury that fought Cunningham would struggle with Wilder, that was a rough around the edges Fury that wasn't taking the fight seriously enough, a fight against a Cruiser. Throughout the fight Fury was just using his size and leaning all over Cunningham, he got dropped too because he was acting like a bit of d**k and f**king about. That fight is what gave a lot of people serious doubts about him and whether he was good enough. He got his big fight against Wlad, away from home and as a massive underdog, the pressure was off and combined with his mind games and antics he pulled it off in fine fashion. A rematch in the UK would have been interesting because he wouldn't have been the underdog and it would be in front of a large UK crowd. Of course it never happened. The first Wilder fight had ready made excuses for if he failed, he was again a massive underdog due to the valid excuses he had if he lost. Coming in with nothing to lose, Fury boxed brilliantly and beat Wilder, the argument for it being a draw is ridiculous, Fury clearly won 8 rounds. That performance now means that he's not really seen as the underdog anymore, a year and two fights have passed and they meet again, there's no excuses to be used now, nothing to fall back on, I hope he can do it and I believe he can, he just has to concentrate and stick to boxing because Wilder is largely an average boxer, he just has freakish power.

 

I still cant see wilder beating him. You,d like to think fury will be fitter than the first time round. Thats all he needs tbh. Wilder only got to him cause he tired more than usual...most probably due to the lay off etc.

Hes been back training for longer now...should be stronger for it. Outside of the two knockdowns he handled wilder with ease at times. I still reckon roach was right....he could have stopped him if he pushed it. Wilder struggled with the weight difference.

Wouldn,t look into the wallin fight too much....fury fought a different fight against him. Didnt retreat when wallin went on the offence like he usually does against higher calibre opposition. Led to fury looking awkward as he always has when he tries to fight on the front foot. Hes never really gonna be a front foot fighter. Tried to make a fight of it to please the crowd and ended up in a tougher fight than expected because wallin was better than expected and furys not great on the front foot anyway. He wont fight that way against wilder. Will try and frustrate him and take oppertunities when they open up.

 

How can you not see Wilder beating him? I’m not saying that will be the result (although if I’m honest I do think Wilder by KO) but I can see Wilder defeating everyone on the planet. I can obviously see him being knocked out too. I suppose that’s what’s fun about Wilder.

 

Two things. Fury wasn’t a massive underdog for the first Wilder fight. He was an 11/10 shot. He’s as massive an underdog as Canelo was to beat Golovkin.

Secondly, I’m not sure how you can say arguments for the draw in the first fight are ‘ridiculous’ and at the same time say Fury won eight rounds. On the basis that he was dropped twice and presumably on your card lost another two rounds then he’s won the fight by one round. Give any of those eight rounds to Wilder and it’s a draw.

 

Forget what the bookies had, I didn't know anyone who genuinely thought that Fury would win that fight, me and a few of my mates were hopeful but the thought of him getting a decision over there against Wlad seemed crazy and that was the only way any of us thought he could win.

Against Wilder eight rounds were clearly won, the two 10-8 Wilder rounds aside there are two other rounds which you could give either way but Tyson probably edged them, Wilder didn't land a combination until the 8th. As Malignaggi said after the fight, we shouldn't be discussing 2 knockdowns, we should be discussing how Fury boxed brilliantly throughout the fight.