Rocky Marciano vs Joe Frazier

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I know this one has been done before and probably multiple times but what the heck...
    - Both had great infighting skills
    - Both had great power
    - Both had fast hands
    - Both had good upper body movement
    - Both could go 15 rounds
    - Both had tremendous heart and other intangibles

    Frazier had the slight edge in size while I think Rocky might have had a better two fisted attack.. I think this is a very tough fight to choose a winner. I’m almost thinking it’s 50/50. What do you guys think ?
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have always felt like Frazier Marciano and Holyfield are as close as I can find to a 50/50 fight. I like Frazier (not just the Philly thing...but it does make it easier) to nip a narrow decision. But to me this would be electric!

    now the Marciano haters can bust the door down! I’m out...it’s about to get heated in here!
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I pick Marciano by stoppage in the championship rounds based off more overall punch power and a better chin versus perhaps Frazier's better defense

    The workrate of this fight would be insane
     
  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Both prime fighters had great corners, Rocky Marciano had Al Weill, and Charley Goldman. Joe Frazier had Eddie Futch and Yank Durham. Both fighters were somewhat on the smaller size, but they could hit very hard. Frazier's best punch was his signature left hook, and Marciano's, was his paralyzing Suzie-Q right hand. Both fighters fought out of a crouch, but Joe bobbed and weaved, looking to hit the body like a punching bag. Frazier was susceptible to a hard right hand, Marciano's facial tissue was scar laced around the eyes, had a history to suffer cuts. This fight would resemble two Mack trucks crashing into each other as one writer once said about the two. Marciano would be down early in the fight while Joe continued to smoke, ravaging Rocky's body. Marciano tags Frazier with a hard right hand, sending him tumbling to the canvas, late in the bout, Joe gets up to finish the bout, as the two fighters facial features are grossly disfigured at the conclusion of this historic match, Rocky by a majority decision. Time for a trilogy, with these two doing it again.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I think Marciano's two fisted power is the difference here, in a fight of monstrous wills and workrates. I'd expect Frazier to be winning early, landing his snapping left, and Rocky to start accumulating damage, and points, later on, slightly slowing Frazier and rocking him.

    I think you'd see a Marciano decision and a stoppage is quite probable. One of the fights for all time!
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never did like you
     
  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    loser
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Frazier is bigger, faster, stronger, more skilled, better defensively, less prone to cuts, better left. Heart, Stamina, and chin just as good. Better resume.

    Rocky: Better right.

    Hmmmmm this is a tough one.
     
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mr. Magoo! I have not seen you for a while, que pasa? It is great to have you around. :)

    This fight is about the Ultimate test of ATG HW swarmers.
    You can argue either one very convincingly.

    Marciano's advantages: 2 fisted power. Punch variety. Slight edge in chin & due to more economy of movement, endurance.
    Frazier's advantages: size, accuracy, foot speed.
    Defense may be a wash. Both took punishment to get in, but could be surprisingly elusive, due to unpredictable attack & the rhythm method, respectively.
    Both have unsurpassable heart & a great workrate.
    Joe swelled & Rocky cut.

    Marciano a greater pro record, but Frazier as an amateur, Olympian, & fought in a greater era & against better sluggers, the bane of swarmers.

    With no confidence I would pick Frazier.
    The greater connection rate might make the difference.
    I do not think that Marciano has the Foreman-esque power to stop Frazier, & while both fighters would be off their feet...
    I actually see a decision, though admittedly either fighter could get a late mercy stoppage.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Frazier TKO 8th on cuts. Rock's skin won't hold up.
     
  11. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Fraziers bob and weave style depends on straight punches thrown in rhythmic fashion, preferably from taller opponents. Rockys odd, unpredictable barrages will eventually break Frazier down. Frazier was better on the inside, but Marciano was crazy strong and might be able to overwhelm him there. Either way the Rock is too unorthodox for Frazier, the Suzie Q will land over the left hook too many times. Marciano TKO 12
     
  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Is it legal to vote against Marciano on here!?
    Cos im going for Frazier by 12 rounds TKO.
     
  13. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    This. /thread.
     
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  14. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Is this how you'd describe Marciano?
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    There's question about it?
     
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