Tbf hes already gotten plenty of big fights while under cyclone promotions. If there isn't any wrong doings regarding the contracts or purses then Taylor should of stayed loyal imo.
I think it is a bad move, Yes he gets the unification fights under Arum. But in terms of becoming a draw in the UK he has blown his chances like DeGale did , Selby . If he gets beat off Ramierz where does he go? Crawford also beats him. He would have been better with Hearn.
It’s not what they’ve done wrong in the past it’s what they can deliver in the future? Can cyclone provide the platform for a unification with Ramirez? Then when he moves up can they provide a super fight with Crawford? I think it could’ve been done a lot more amicable. Kept them on as managers and trainer, reduced their influence and signed promotional terms with Top Rank but obviously there’s more to it than meets the eye.
Hearn is a great promoter but in some divisions his influence is very small. What can he offer Taylor in the super lightweight division? Lewis Ritson?
I think they could of delivered the Ramirez fight and plenty of other big fights. Josh is hot property right now and holds two belts. Fair enough he's not a global star yet but I believe he would of gotten the big fights under mcguigan anyways. Either way it's all just speculation now as he's gone and I hope his career continues its upwards trajectory. Obviously if there's serious contract breaches by the mcguigans then Taylor's right just to look after no 1.
If Ramirez beats him then he's obviously not as good as we think he is and he can then drop back a level and fight a few guys and build himself up again. Crawford is a big step up but Taylor's only had 16 fights and deserves a chance to have a few fights before he goes for a huge payday against someone like Crawford. Whatever promoter he's with, if he loses fights then his career will stall and it eventually crash depending on the amount of defeats. We fans complain about the best not fighting the best, well here's a situation where potentially the best fight each other. One of them has to lose and rebuild their career. Hopefully it's not Taylor.
No he wouldn't have. There's nothing for him staying with Hearn unless Hooker beat Ramirez which didn't happen. Fighting Ritson is a waste of time and a waste of a training camp. He's got bigger fish to fry in the US instead of trying to become 'popular' in the UK.
When he beat Prograis, all the talk was about Ritson which we all found underwhelming. The lad is clearly hungry and ambitious and he wants to fight the best. The top 140’s and 147’s operate in the US. So it makes sense to have an American promoter to tap into that. Something Cyclone (or Hearn) can’t do for him in that division. I do feel sorry for Shane as he’s losing top fighters due to business decisions by others. If he wants to move on and train the very best he needs to become independent from their business decisions.
The reality also is that if he goes to America and loses handily against Ramirez, builds himself back up and loses down the line against Crawford, he's still had the big paydays and had a crack at the best he could realistically face. If that happens he can still come back to the UK for something like a Ritson fight, which in those circumstances would seem more reasonable even if he was still always going to be a huge favourite. Agree that it's not ideal for UK fans but nor is this something new. Personally I think we've become used to the relatively new concept of big names arriving in this country for big fights at times suited to a UK audience. Taylor heading abroad to chase the best is really no different to what Hatton or (eventually) Calzaghe did, and even then, what were their biggest fights at 10pm on a Saturday night?
There has There has To be more to it. It seems a bit drastic leaving Shane as well. But that probably boils down to, if you leave cyclone then Shane is part of that package and you leave him as well.
cyclone did brilliantly for Taylors career it has to be said, but they do seem to come across as leeches. obviously without knowing the details of his contract and what they're taking its hard to be definitive about that though. the Frampton court case will be interesting.
A Scotsman will never be a huge draw in the uk regardless of how good he is. It's a shame but it's true.most englishman(not all) would rather watch Derek chisora or a Dave Allen let's be honest.let him try do what Buchanan did and go down in history.
Stay loyal whilst limiting his earning potential and growth of his career.Why? Because it's morally the right thing to do?..come on man.
Cyclone have done a superb job with Taylor as far, he's been moved very well and reached the pinnacle of the sport. Shane McGuigan has done a fantastic job with him for sure. That said, the amount of fighters that have left because of contract disputes etc is a little alarming...… what are they doing to these contracts????
Might limit his earning potential but it certainly hasn't stunted his career so far. He's gotten big fights under mcguigan and he's in a good position of power with two belts so he can entice any potential opponents plus if he was to beat Ramirez he would be a massive draw for the big names in boxing. A little bit of loyality to the ppl that got you there is not alot to ask. Unless of course they have been screwing him with his contracts.
