Bob Arum: Manny Pacquiao Is The 2010—2019 Fighter of the Decade

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  1. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    LOL, that's how I saw your response. Based on this one below
    Any fan can say that about their personal favorite. It is a general statement. "Joe blow tore through the decade!" But against who? No major though not an insult to me and hope U don't take it as one in return. Your response as to why he is deserving of FOTD was IMO to 1. Name Clottey 2. Say he tore through the ranks.
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    Take it anyway YOU want, but for me? 2:58 into the clip he knew how it would be taken when Joshua said "I had to lose that day."
    Then states I'm a bigger guy if I let my hands go I could kill the little guy."

    LMAO! I'm not taking the bait --just yet partner!:nonono I am responding to this thread's claim: He is best this past decade Per Arum. Now if you do your own thread on that decade...see if I won't back Pac up! :cool:

    I believe I did on the thread about who was deserving. My case got quite a few likes but not by Pac fans, understandably so. This is an Arum says PAc is FOTD thread. That's what I'm sticking to.

    Clottey was a solid fighter to claim a need to nitpick, I can dig it! But that's because we both watched him in reel time. History will show he 1. lost EVERY major fight. 2. A history of so many low-blows & headbutts he's lost by DQ (Baldomir) points taken (Gutierrez),+ the crowd boo'd the decision 3. claimed consistent hand problems (stopped throwing against Rito) 4. Never successfully defended a major title. 5. Got hit by Judah close to 120 times in 9 rounds at time of stoppage- meaning his D isn't a fortress against all fighters.

    IMO A high guard has nothing to do with a low connect rate- it's the fighter's responsibility to tear it down. I can't find stats vs Guiterez but just watching it one can see why the crowd Boo'd Clotty's hand raised as Richard fought a phone booth fight. As a result he landed plenty. & didn't throw a million to land a few.
    Another example of how to penetrate a high guard is Winky. His D was similar and proved against Shane? Impenetrable. Same against Trinidad who was given 58 punches.
    How then did Hopkins get credit for 152? His game plan. He sacrificed his jab (IMO) by parying Winky's jab & countering over the top. A similar % against that high guard but it was not based on throwing 500 jabs? to land a over a dozen?
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz031510.htm
    Not stats worthy of FOTD.
    My point is simple. Just as Pac had low % landing against JMM, Morales I, Mayweather, that proves there are certain styles some fighters have trouble with. Clottey stood there. He didn't run and potshot. Why else is every quote on me about Joshua and nothing else. I gave credit to some wins in this decade. I addressed most of his fights, while Pac fans adress one fight or 2, then answer my question with another question & expect for me to prove to a Pac fan why he doesn't deserve to win IMO is a futile exercise.

    Feel free to provide a link. Note -I use stats a lot, but always give leeway knowing not ever punch is counted.

    I agree, he & Roach chose that game plan. Other fighters who fought Clottey didn't have to sacrifice 500 jabs against Joshua. Not even Zab "mental midget" Judah -power punch per HBO BAD had him landing 52% while Pac per link above was 34%.

    This guy again is Joshua CLottey not Anthony Joshua! Bravo on your persistent Defense of Pac's performance over one fighter. IMO you've spent way too much time writing on a guy who never had a successful title defense of a major title. Myself I listed pros & cons. The wins over Thurman & Bradley I credited to him. I'm a far bigger admirer of JMM than Pac, but I'm not one to say Pac lost all against JMM by bad scoring. I've stated he beat JMM 3x on my scorecard. But I will never neglect a fighter given 3 losses in 4 years let alone 4 overall in a decade. & that is supposedly to be the best boxing had to offer in the past 10 years? He was put to sleep man! He couldn't force Floyd to break a sweat! While he clearly out landed Jeff, he got out-hustled in punches thrown. I said it before and here again- Pac was robbed, but then I add Tough peanuts! FOTD don't take on a 4 year 17 fight old Jeff Horn who went on to get stopped 2x.

    I chose Lomachenko as FOTD though I am ok with Canelo who got it. I felt he had too much controversy.
    Loma set a trend any fighter previous to him could have done --unlike Pac's record (8) weight classes as the golden-olden era didn't have but 8 LMAO..that meant Pac would have had to go from the smallest to HW to set that record, while Loma:
    1. won title in 3rd fight. That is a special feat this or any decade
    2. Has never fought a boxer with a losing record. Who else has that kind of a record?
    3. 5 out of his first 6 years he has defended title & holds 3 titles in two weight classes.
    Question: When has Pac ever held 3 titles at once? How about 2 at once? That is how I came to Loma, though I have no argument with Canelo given it over him or Pac.:afro:
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This site is sooooooo pro Pac imo

    That is a very accurate post and no way does Pacquiao deserve fighter of the decade

    However, fighter of the previous decade? Yeah that is certain in my eyes!
     
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  3. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather was clearly the fighter of the decade and sports man of the decade. His records prove it earning $915Million alone in the decade. He changed the game and showed what can be achieved.
     
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  4. BoxingIntegrity119715

    BoxingIntegrity119715 Super Full Member

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    floyd does not deserve to be the fotd because he avoided vada a drug cheat. if he fought im another country outside of vegas his homecourt for sure forhe has multiple losses. he manipulates the compubox to look like he is the most accurate puncher. his punch that does land still count. he is a cheater
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :llorona::llorona::llorona:
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Nowhere did I say Pac deserves to be FOTD this decade.
     
  7. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Whatever you just sound like a loser. The statistics and facts don’t lie. Money May also was an innovator in ensuring compulsory drug testing for his fights. He never failed drug tests unlike some we could mention. 50-0 arguably one of the greatest of all times and TBE. Vegas is the capital of boxing which hosts big fights and Floyd chose to make it his home.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Ward not active enough
     
  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Inoue needs a mention started in 2012
     
  10. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Sadly .....
     
  11. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Man, GTFOH with that garbage. On the eve of the biggest fight in the history of the sport, dude was caught using illegal IVs. And he rejected VADA and the $5 million per dirty test penalty. VADA had been the gold standard of drug testing for years. If he wanted to make sure Pac was clean, he would have opted for VADA. Floyd rigged the testing so that he could cheat while his opponents were clean. And let's not forget the Floyd had ultra low T/E ratios (consistent with doping) in multiple fights.
     
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  12. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    My bad. I had several posters question me, apparently I responded with a single answer to all of 'em you included!
     
  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Come on let's give those whole fighter of decade a rest for a while
     
  14. Rdc4444

    Rdc4444 Member Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao fighter of the decade!

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