That’s it, ferguson. Focus.Let the hate and anger flow through you and then use it to put some life and credibility in your posts here.
That's a hard NO. Your punishment is to watch Foreman vs Cooney 42 straight times and tell yrself Cooney ever had good balance or could take a punch from a hitter. If at the end of 42 xs you are still a Cooney knobpolisher, you should .......
WTF whorelocks? Cooney was a mofo! He was bad=ss up to homes. In that timeframe, as much as I like Micheal, I actually thought he was going to school Tyson BTW, I really think Gerry would have blown him out in a round or two. Mike was cute, had good movement, but not the kind that would get away from Gerry. A heavyweight version of Floyd gaywether would be the kind of guy to frustrate Cooney in those days. Holmes was simply amazing in their fight, and was the only reason he did what he did. After that, Gerry was never the same fighter.
I personally thought the only sign of Holmes' decline during the Cooney fight was the tactical error he made in round 2. Cooney was pretty much finished at that point, but Larry was being overly cautious. All Larry had to do was his usual barrage-of-right-hands finishing technique and it was over. And yes, Cooney was no joke as a fighter right up to Holmes. After that he needed to retire.
ur correct, its really unfortunate he didn't fight guys who were at their peak like he was. No, he wasn't perfect, I just go by how freakin brutal he was. Although aged, Lyle was a big healthy heavyweight, went rounds with Forman, and all the top guys, was kicking Ali's ass, and Gerry just blew him away. Norton too, although that was a bad matchup for Kenny, I knew that was gonna happen. Gerry was improving all the time, had a real good right hand by the time he fought Young. He hung with a prime Holmes too. As strange as his story got back then after Holmes, it turns out he's a great guy, does a lot for boxers with troubles, nice to see him happy
I myself am still undecided as to how this fight would go even if circumstances had been drastically different. But I agree that we can't base any outcomes on what happened in their actual meeting. Spinks was a defending world champion and one preparing for a much larger payday while Cooney was a part time semi retired fighter. He entered that ring looking as though he trained for maybe three weeks and his focus revealed the resolution of a man who was just there to collect a check. This is a far cry from the active fighting contender we saw in the late 70s and early 80s. Again I'm undecided but something tells me that Spinks wouldn't be able to take too many of those hard left hooks to the body and head..... Hell one of those shots BROKE Ron Lyle's rib !!
Yeah good point magoo. People forget that against Tyson, the first knockdown came when Spinks was hit by a bodyshot and he couldn't take it and had to drop down to the canvas. Cooney was far from being a prime Tyson but his left hooks to the body seem just as brutal as any bodyshot that Tyson threw.
I really think it’s a testimony of his power. Knocking out guys with body shots is hard as hell to do. Cooney made a habit out of hurting guys downstairs to the point of even breaking bone.
I actually think Cooney's hook was harder than Iron Mike's, just not as blisteringly/whiplash fast. I can see and respect where some folks might believe Michael evades pre-Holmes Gerry's punches. Michael was no joke defensively. I just can't see Michael taking those shots flush. That said, Larry had a heck of a time landing flush in the first Spinks fight, and he was faster than Gerry...so the Michael-yay-sayers have good grounds to argue he'd win.
Ron Lyle was KOd by Lynn Ball in 2 rounds before Gerry fought him. Norton struggled mightily with Scott LeDoux and Tex Cobb before facing Gerry. The fact they were light punchers saved him. And Norton had a style where he was vulnerable to walk in sluggers. See Foreman and Shavers fights. The point is both were fast fading when they fought Cooney and Norton was a good style matchup. Of course that is why they we're selected by his shrewed managers. And the argument made by others saying Tysin got to Spinks early, so Gerry would is also bogus. Tyson had great foot movement and head movement to get inside - two attributes even prime Cooney lacked.
Whenever I see your name I think back to my favorite era (by far) of light heavies. Michael, Mustafa, Matthew, Dwight, Marvin...loved them.
Thanks. I used Saad as my handle because he was such an inpirational figure. That was a great era at 175 lbs.
