Tracy Callis has slightly changed his All Time rankings

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Just spotted this, and I think it's interesting.
    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/callis-rankings.htm
    For P4P, Ezzard Charles has been added at 9, and Harry Greb and Philadelphia Jack O'Brien are now tied for 10 (before O'Brien was 9, and Greb was 10

    At Light Heavyweight Archie Moore and Michael Spinks have been swapped, with Moore now at 8 with Spinks at 9.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not big on Callis.
     
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  3. DavidBarnes

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    Jim Jeffries the number 1 Heavyweight of all time?
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly!
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moore at 8???? Top 3 LOCK at light heavyweight.
    How can someone have Charles > Greb P4P?
    Jeffries #1 HW?:lol:

    I'd like to point out not one of his top 10 CWs were CW

    Charles Mitchel #5 P4P...
    Oh dear dear dear dear dear

    @The Malibu Mauler, Greg I'm sorry for the mean things I said about your list
     
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  6. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are these the only changes… I don't recall having seen the #10 tie between Lavigne and Whitaker before at lightweight. Or is my memory letting me down?
     
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  7. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wtf?

    Marvelous Marvin and Murderer Monzon don’t even make it into the middleweight top 10?
     
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  8. The Senator

    The Senator Active Member Full Member

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    Callis rates Philiadelphia Jack O'Brien extraordinarily high. Also not sure about rating old school heavies at Cruiser and then also rating them at HW. I personally wouldn't rate anyone in a division they never actually fought in. It's a strange choice that's only overshadowed by the extremely questionable rankings.

    I consider myself more of a classicist than many, but even I wouldn't go so far as to rate Jeffries in my top five for HW, let alone placing him, Johnson and Dempsey over Ali and Louis and Corbett anywhere in the top ten.
     
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  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neither am I. He's about as biased (in favor of the old-timers) as Nat Fleischer - so I don't take his rankings too seriously
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Marciano below Corbett rattled me to my ****ing core
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wow...those are atrocious! I must have seen them before but Jesus Christ. Even his definition of pound-for-pound is ****ing crazy. Best bit:

    "Generally, as a man gets larger, he gets heavier."
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Without exaggeration, I'd give more gravitas to the average posters ratings here than Callis' opinions.
     
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  13. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know we could be here all day if we start picking holes, but WTF is Pryor doing ranked at lightweight?
     
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  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was his son Tracy Callis Jr., who died in 2009.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    His rankings don't even make much sense, in terms of what he believes, if you get what I am saying.
     
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