Liston knocked in sparing!

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    This was during Liston vacation and fighting in Sweden!
    He didn't knew that his sparing partner would be angry man who heard that Sonny knocked his brother!Ray Patterson who was more agressive and stronger than his elder borther Floyd Patterson knocked Liston and Sonny was on ropes!
    Here is a picture!
    http://books.google.com/books?id=T7oDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA50&dq
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he was knocked down ,I posted this about 7 years ago,but it could do with a new look at it.
     
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  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    A shame, that Floyd couldnt replicate his brother's achievement
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    If Floyd had stopped Sonny, I wonder how/if the fistic landscape would have altered?
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    A nicer man would've been the heavyweight champ, beyond that not much. Either Liston wins the rematch or Ali sweeps Floyd.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Which base ball manager said "nice guys finish last." CaseyStengel,LeoDurocher?
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    sounds like something Tony Galento would say as well

    what a great man and rolemodel
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's not hard to get knocked down if you fight/spar enough rounds... especially if you expect some lighter sparring and you meet a hot head with an agenda.
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Getting "knocked " sparring is quite different than getting "knocked " in an actual fight. Who knows were Liston's mind was, meanwhile Patterson's brother was probably fighting the best he could fight trying to prove a point.... It means very little to be honest, considering Patterson's brother never did anything in boxing...... Every dog wags his tail sometimes.....
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Who knocked him ? Who’d dare ridicule the great Sonny listen ?
     
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  11. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't Mac Foster drop Sonny or knock him out in sparring too?

    Stuff happens in sparring, no big deal either. It's not as if it's indicative of what would happen in an actual fight.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Haven't looked much but saw this straight away -

    Whilst serving as a sparring partner for Sonny Liston, Foster reportedly knocked out the former world champion.This account appears to have been exaggerated as it is not corroborated by newspaper accounts at that time. Foster may have floored Liston but the former champion carried on sparring not only with Foster but with other partners and worked Foster over before handlers could stop it during a sparring session two days later.
     
  13. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting and a good reason why I take any sparring stories with a large pinch of salt.

    Good find JT.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Toxie Hall knocked Marciano down with a left hook when Rocky was training for Cokkell,but as Rocky said," it was a real good shot,but you try different things in sparring". Vitali Klitschko was knocked down by both Rafael Butler and Travis Walker in sparring .Tyson by Greg Page.It's claimed Jim Corbett knocked Jeffries down when they sparred in a handball court. David Haye flattened a young Wilder . Doesn't mean much at all,imo.
     
  15. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Marciano is only knocked down and then beat Toxie Hall so much that Toxie wasn't Marciano sparing partner!Marciano was never knocked out!Not in fights not in sparings!Sonny was knocked by Ali,Marshall and Martin!Also by Foster,Ray and Martin in sparings!He was not chinny but his chin wasn't very good!I don't know why but like some swarmers are suspectable against Liston/Foreman uppercut same way slow sluggers like Liston and Foreman are wide open for overhands!All knockout defeats of Sonny were from overhand right!And Marciano had second hardest overhand after Baer!Thats why I think Marciano can beat Liston!Ingemar Johansson who spared with Liston in sweden said that Ali would give him problem but Liston nope!And he said that Marciano would beat Liston because Liston is so slow and allways open!I think Sonny would beat Ingo but if he is wide open like against Foster or Martin then there is no doubt that one overhand could beat Liston!
     
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