Andre Ward is a greater fighter than Floyd Mayweather, allow me to explain

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Jan 17, 2020.



  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    48,164
    18,451
    Jan 3, 2007
    When Kovalev first started demolishing the division I was impressed. But in hindsight who did he really beat ? Cleverly, Fonfara and a 50 year old Hopkins ?? Mayweather was a five division champion who beat tons of guys with plenty of gas left in the tank and wound up with a 50-0 record..
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,738
    1,297
    Jul 21, 2010
    @Loudon regarding Manny first we can break down the whole thing considering the fact that Mayweather competed in the Olympics I think if requested he would do what Mannys team originally did which is laugh and say yes you don't say no to drug testing unless your dirty... leaving that part out do we not remember Mayweather Calling Manny out religiously after Ortiz and Marquez III only to hear about a cut and a stadium that needed to be built, and when they Mayweather was going to jail they could fight in May but when he got it pushed back they could no longer fight.... do you even remember how the fight even happened in the first place? Mayweather walked up on Manny at a Miami heat game not the other way around and confronted him about the fight had Manny come to his hotel room to hash it out... if you look at every notable fight they've had this decade every top opponent for Manny was coming off a devastating beatdown, injuries, inactivity, or losses... Mayweather's were coming off top wins in the division I get it the money persona and all that isn't likable but this stuff is documented to see...

    Now regarding Ward I don't think i was exaggerating Hernandez is a greater fighter than Froch, even if you put Kovalev over Castillo, the rest of their body of work is similar.. we cant forget that between 2012 and 2016 Ward did nothing pretty much that's 4 prime years.... Mayweather at 130 & 35 fought THE MAN in each division twice was Lineal in both a fair argument can be made that SFW/LW Floyd is greater than Wards career..

    Lastly addressing the triangle theory I know fights don't work like that but we've seen Kovalevs whole career pretty much and we've seen Canelo career to this point right now Canelo is greater than Kovalev ever was and both of them are In my top 5 favorite active fighters you can say green or whatever but unified Titlist coming off a win over unbeaten Trout who ppl said Mayweather should fight beat him up and knocked him down.. lost to Mayweather next 2 fights he faces b2b the guys who were in the JMW FOTY in Angulo and Lara beats both the very next year...
    Pacquaio after losing to Mayweather had a controversial loss to horn and outside of that has been out classing some maybe past it but name quality fighters to say that the one fight vs Mayweather he was past prime and directly after he was good enough to become the oldest WW Champ beat beat prime champs.

    Face it man in no way shape or form is Ward anywhere near Mayweather......Mayweather is one of the greatest fighters ever, Ward is a great fighter in tha era that a big difference.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2020
    Pimp C likes this.
  3. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

    5,116
    185
    Feb 7, 2005
    I think he is. He did more in less time.
     
  4. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

    5,116
    185
    Feb 7, 2005
    All athletes are judged by their performances after they aged. But they all look so much.worse when it's a sport played 1 on 1 . Sports like tennis and boxing really show the age of an athlete and their decline is so much more noticeable. But ultimately the age of an athlete is noticeable in every sport.
     
    Heavy_Hitter likes this.
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    45,854
    15,160
    Apr 14, 2009
    The NSAC & Bob Bennett know that too They know he was juicing. Trouble is the State Commissions control the sport they dont have to answer
    to anyone. The Commissions are where the corruption started
    I asked my doctor about that & he said that if Mayweather was so dehydrated he needed 750 ml of saline drip he'd have been in ICU while they fought to save his kidneys . He would be SERIOUSLY ill fighting for his life Not running around a boxing ring for 12 rounds
     
    Loudon likes this.
  6. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    59,874
    5,375
    Nov 5, 2013
    Yes, we know he is definitely greater than MANNY PACROID.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    45,854
    15,160
    Apr 14, 2009
    You call everyone that sees through Floyd's cheating all his career a Hater!!
    BUT YOU !! are the prime example of a hater Pimp. The vile hatred you feel for Antonio Margarito because he was the MAN! that proved Mayweather's cowardice. By simply walking up to Floyd & asking him politely " Why wont you fight me"? caused Floyd to go ballistic & babble like Daffy Duck & eventually LITERALLY soil himself he was that scared of Tony. Youve obviously seen the video & know its for real & the only recourse you have is to try & keep believing Richardson's blatant lies because thats all you have. Why dont you be a man & face up to it your idol is a COWARD & a CHEATER!!!!!
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    121,403
    32,561
    Jun 23, 2005
    You're damn fool he was cleared the result stand pac lost even pac knows he lost. He accepted defeat why can't you?
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,133
    5,343
    May 22, 2011
    Ward is good but Mayweather is great.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    45,854
    15,160
    Apr 14, 2009
    ROFL
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    121,403
    32,561
    Jun 23, 2005
    100% truth refute it or log off.
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    45,854
    15,160
    Apr 14, 2009
    Please in all seriousness Show us all how Floyd was "cleared" in the IV scandal. Ive never seen anything. Was he super dehydrated?? Did a miracle save his life?? Also did he tick the right box saying he was dehydrated?? He must have or the NSAC sabotagedPAC for refusing him his Toradol
    Pimp the statement "Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong so we will not be investigating" issued by the NSAC does NOT clear the cheating scumbag
    in fact it proves the NSAC were in the corruption up their asses themselves
    C'mon be a man dont hide
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    45,854
    15,160
    Apr 14, 2009
    C'MON PIMP OR FOREVER BE KNOWN AS THE FORUM HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON FAIRY TALE TELLER
     
  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

    10,017
    1,406
    Jun 28, 2006
    That's a bad point because most of those guys, Mayweather was older than and started as a pro before them. Only 2 were older, De La Hoya and Mosley. Mayweather went up in weight to fight De La Hoya, and De La Hoya was a champion at the time. Mosley had just Ko'ed Margarita who was considered the boogie man of WW and had a steal chin. Mosley was also number ranked mandatory to Mayweather belt at the time, and was calling for Mayweather to fight him. Mayweather at the time he fought Mosley wasn't prime either, so ur argument is sort of like a crab cake. A bunch of filler without the crab meat.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    121,403
    32,561
    Jun 23, 2005
    They investigated it he was cleared by USADA and the NSAC they are the authorities you're not the result stand. Pac had no problems with it and accepted his loss but your crybaby bitter ass can't accept reality. Like i said earlier you're on the spectrum.
     
    KO KIDD likes this.