Marciano-I Just Don't Understand It

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by janwalshs, Aug 2, 2010.



  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    27,511
    7,386
    Dec 31, 2009
    Andy Walker was a very tough guy at that point though. His record was not reflective at all to the kind of fighter he might have been with Cleveland Williams opponents because Andy had been fighting decent guys from the start of his career.

    Walker was rewarded with a west coast tv fight against comeback Joe Louis after the draw with Layne which was another bruising fight, Louis decked him and stopped him late in round 10 which effectively finished Andy’s career. But if you examine walkers record up to Joe Louis he had drew or beat most of the guys he lost to fighting the same guys multiple times with different results. For example I think he fought frank Buford more than 6 times. Grant butcher 3 times. Bob Dunlap 3 times. And these guys were all tough. Seven draws. Half of the fights he lost by decision were split verdicts. Walker was never matched to win from the start.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    27,511
    7,386
    Dec 31, 2009
    Ahah black cloud, the bum from the dark!
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    12,608
    10,372
    Mar 19, 2012
    Jazz is America's one and only gift to the world. We can all agree on that.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,576
    1,949
    Aug 26, 2004
    No your saying it- most fought better fighters than Williams and scored KO's- Williams never proved it but build up Williams with who he KO'd in the ring - He looked good throwing them but results very poor in pro ring- FACT
     
    choklab likes this.
  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,576
    1,949
    Aug 26, 2004
    I go off memory most of the time- I've seen these guys fight not some 12 year old reading boxrec so Williams had 34 fights and got KO'd for 10 minutes by a 5;10 178 lb guy - your a snot nose
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,759
    14,860
    Jul 30, 2014
    Might wanna teach him honesty to. Seems to know nothing about that.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,759
    14,860
    Jul 30, 2014
    The reason I insult you is because I have no patience for liars or trolls such as yourself who purposely distort facts to suit your agenda.
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,759
    14,860
    Jul 30, 2014
    Wrong yet again. The associated press said he was out for less than a minute. "it took almost a full minute to revive the 20 year old Tampa heavyweight." It wasn't ten minutes as you claim. You've also been told numerous times that Williams took the fight on a 2 day notice and had no time to prepare. You conveniently and deciptively leave it out because it doesn't suit your agenda. And I don't believe you when you say you go off memory because
    1. Nobody is this stupid (not even a Marciano fan)
    2. All the details that you got wrong, literally every single one of them just happen to discredit Williams. You're just as dishonest as your fellow arse licker Choklab. I guess that's par for the course. :lol:
     
    mcvey and BlackCloud like this.
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    Fella you just ducked the question.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    Not 10 minutes as reports confirm, so will you now stop saying this in every ****ing post!

    "The final punch was a left hook to the chin. After the fight it took almost a full minute to revive the 20 year old Tampa heavyweight." -Associated Press
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    Plus Movies.And The American SongBook.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,576
    1,949
    Aug 26, 2004

    Ha Ha Confirmed you are 12 years old - baby brain
     
    choklab likes this.
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    You are losing very badly here ,you posted some glaring inaccuracies, got called on them ,and are now resorting to personal insults .
    I'd say you posted them in good faith,but if you repeat them we will know different.
     
    BlackCloud and swagdelfadeel like this.
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,759
    14,860
    Jul 30, 2014
    :lol: The irony. You are unable to refute any of my points and as a result you're reduced to juvenile insults.
     
    BlackCloud likes this.
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,759
    14,860
    Jul 30, 2014
    Knowing his partner in crime and insistence to posting these inaccuracies despite being corrected numerous times by yourself and I among numerous others tells me otherwise.