Do short heavyweight Boxers have an low chance of being signed to a promoter these days ?

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  1. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member banned Full Member

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    I’m talking between the height of 5’11-6’1. It would be also great if anybody can speak from experience or if they known anybody in this situation
     
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  3. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    6‘1 is just not tall enough for hw.
     
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  4. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see why not. But they would have to be very talented and skilled at getting inside. They are not going to win a jabbing contest.

    How tall is Andy Ruiz? If the dude got down to 235-240 and dedicated himself to the game, how good could he be? Pretty darn good I would think.
     
  5. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz is 188 cm which 6' 1 and a half inches...A just under 5' 10" Prime Tyson would absolutely destroy the average lot of Heavyweights that are around at the moment if they have the talent answer is No.!!!!
     
  6. WillieWild

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    But he weigh 380 !
     
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  7. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    HW division is similar to the QB position in the NFL. Teams seem to want a 6’3” or bigger QB but every once in a while a guy like Drew Breese or Russel Wilson comes along and shows what a shorter guy can do.

    Tyson showed a shorter guy can compete at HW but he was a special talent. Heavyweights these days are giant, at least the top guys.

    Ruiz showed the world that a shorter guy could beat a big guy. AJ seemed to help him by fighting a stupid fight. The second fight was boring but it was an easy win. AJ could have easily done the same thing in the first fight. Guys like Wilder and Fury are also big and long (legs and arms). That’s a lot of reach and length for a short guy to contend with. I would imagine a 5’10” contender would have to have freakish punching power to get support on the pro level versus a 6’6” guy with comparable skills.
     
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    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Homero Fonseca got himself onto some decent cards and generally put on a good show.
     
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    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A short HW with elite footspeed and stamina could be effective. One problem is that a lot of the shorter guys ate their way out of CW, so their very presence at HW defeats their best path to success.

    Ruiz is a perfect example except that he has freakishly quick hands for his size, so he mostly has gotten away with it.
     
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  10. RingKing75

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    Ruiz being a blubbering out of shape unfocussed mess is what made that fight easy.
     
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  11. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See what happens with Nistor.
     
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  12. eltirado

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    If they have an Olympic Medal at Heavyweight, then its worth it...at least the casuals will accept him as legit, the problem is that those short guys will just never make it at that level Olympic or Pro

    These days the majority of the fans call 6'2" + boxers who won non-Olympic medals in the amateurs as flat-out BUMs, simply because they couldn't get past the range of bigger framed guys like Fury-Wilder-Joshua-Wlad

    5'11"-6'01" even if genetically extremely muscular (210 lbs), then they can easily make Cruiser. Once they clean-out their division, then they can come into Heavy ala Usyk-Toney-Holy & see how things go

    In reality the majority of youth at 200lbs are Sub-Middleweights,Sculpted by PEDs or Contoured by MCDs
     
  13. Jackman65

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    That definitely factored into the equation. AJ also fought a much different fight. He wasn’t trying to trade with Andy and he used his size. AJ also looked much more confident and purposeful in the second fight, like a different boxer. I don’t know what he was thinking in that first fight. He looked nervous at first, tentative and unsure of himself. Andy looked loose and confident as the fight progressed.

    I really liked Ruiz after the first fight. Was hoping he would have taken the opportunity to get in the best shape possible for the rematch but he had other plans. Mainly dinner plans because he went from fat to WTF? If I was in his camp, I’d be concerned about his health. Guys that fat don’t live a long time. He makes Butterbean look like prime Ken Norton.
     
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  14. MURK20

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    Really? I think that Holyfield would perform great in this era.
     
  15. RingKing75

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    Surprisingly I agree with everything you said. Ruiz proved the perception of him to be right. Ruiz proved he is lazy and unfocused. Very disappointing because he has the talent to be a champion who could hold his own with any of the top guys and beat them. Now that he doesn't have the title hes going to have a hard time getting another title shot because no one is going to want to risk it.
     
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