Wilder retires if...

I agree in that going in there trying to knock Wilder out early is just daft but we all know he’s not going to do that. However, he can hurt Wilder and he can stop him. Wilder was visibly hurt a couple of times in that fight hence Freddie Roach expressing his bafflement at Ben not instructing Fury to finish the job.

 

Tell me a fighter that Fury said he was going to beat on points?

Fury always says he is going KO his opponent.

He basically says the same crap every fight, that he is going to steam roll his opponent or bamboozle his opponent with his unbelievable skills because he is a "real fighting man, from fighting stock".. oh yeah and then KO them.



This KO2 prediction.. Fury is just trying to slow Wilder down early in my opinion, give himself time, this is a poor attempt at gamesmanship/psychology.

Fury is saying is he coming out fast and hoping Wilder is a little cautious early, maybe hoping Fury over commits or throws big punches and give Wilder the opportunity of a counter right hand and it will give Fury enough time to warm in to a fight, settle, get Wilders timing and give him enough time to have a look at what Wilders doing with his feet and movement and adjust and nullify.

If I was Wilder I'd come out like a steam train in that opening 3 minutes, I'd put it right on Fury, very aggressive but educated and not let him settle amd get any sort of rhythm.

Fury doesn't punch hard enough to KO Wilder in my opinion, unless Wilder is completely wreckless.

 

Fury will never win a fight against an elite level opponent via stoppage, never.

 

So it's not feasible that the cards are then adjusted to give a draw also?
Face it,if they wanted to ensure Wilder kept the belts they just make sure the cards say so

 

Would love it if Fury did go in all guns blazing and knocked out Wilder in 2 rounds!!

 

Fury buzzed Wilder pretty good at the end of the opening round last time. If he can fight the same fight but just settle on his shots more (hence the introduction of Sugar Hill) nothing would surprise me in this fight.

I think Wilders luck will run out fighting this patience game plan. Soon enough he’ll find himself too many rounds behind and drop a decision when the big punch doesn’t land. I’d like to see him jump on Fury from the opening bell and take him out of his rhythm from the off with sheer violence.

 

To be honest his luck ran out in their last fight, didn't land a combination until the 8th and, the two knockdowns aside, he looked levels below an 80% Fury, he just got lucky that, somehow, those two knockdowns seemingly leveled out a fight he often looked lost in, in the eyes of the judges. After the second knockdown Wilder had a chance to finish Fury, he swung punches like a lunatic, missing each one.

 

Wonder if the fury cut will reopen can see wilder going to work on that, could play a big part.

 

I just think it’s a lot easier for wilder to go back and watch the first fight, work out fury’s movement patterns everytime wilder attacks and take it from there.

Wilder will get the job done this time, I reckon he catches fury early in the 4/5 round, fury gets up and wilder does the wild swinging smother thing and the ref waves it off with the crowd booing and fury claiming he was ok to continue

 

Whilst they don’t stay the same I don’t see many who get more powerful over the years. Fury plainly isn’t a big puncher at the weight and that isn’t going to change. He never looked close to stopping Wilder who has been in far more trouble at other points in his career. He never looked remotely close to hurting Klitschko who in turn was stopped four times over the years. He did admittedly grind down an out of sorts Chisora who seemed to largely retire out of frustration whilst Haye and Whyte stopped him in far more convincing fashion. And the likes of Pianeta and Wallin wouldn’t see past the first few rounds against Joshua or Wilder yet Tyson takes them to the cards.

Fury has fought in a similar fashion for years and that has never involved utilising power because he doesn’t have any.

 

This is plainly very simplistic thinking. Any 260 pound giant bloke is going to hurt you if he punches you. But Fury’s average stoppage record against his pretty poor level of opposition suggests he’s really not a puncher in the context of professional boxing.

 

In what way was Chisora out of sorts?

He didn't quit out of frustration. He was bet to a pulp and couldn't see out one of his eyes. That was a real beatdown.

 

It's entertaining viewing actually and a lot of hurtful punches landed. Derek's legs buckle too. Fury weighed 264 pounds on the night. A match fit fit, 260+ pound Tyson can hurt opponents badly. No doubt about it.

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The biggest boxthing lesson since Calzaghe v Lacy

 

That's a brilliant point. People always says in the heavies it only takes 1 punch but then go on and say a 16/17 stone man can't hurt somebody