Marvin Johnson vs Archie Moore but with a caveat

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    16,042
    Likes Received:
    11,557
    This is prime Johnson vs the Moore from Durelle 1. Would Johnson get past this version of Moore?
     
  2. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2017
    Messages:
    7,819
    Likes Received:
    13,090
    No, Moore would still win. Like in the Durelle fight, Archie would find a way back into the fight and Marvin wouldn't be durable enough to recover from Archie's comeback.

    Would be a cracking fight, obviously.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    Messages:
    29,218
    Likes Received:
    35,629
    Correct!
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Messages:
    8,717
    Likes Received:
    8,939
    Is a caveat that little indentation on the chin like Kirk Douglas & Michael Jackson has/had?
     
  5. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2015
    Messages:
    10,138
    Likes Received:
    7,973
    As much as I like Marvin, the only version of Moore he beats is very late period Moore.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Messages:
    8,717
    Likes Received:
    8,939
    Like the one in the corner for the Foreman-Ali fight.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    27,126
    Likes Received:
    44,867
    This.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    24,631
    Likes Received:
    18,400

    Yes. I would take Marvin Johnson over the Archie Moore who fought Yvonne Durelle the first time.

    You couldn't half-ass it against Marvin Johnson and expect to win. Ever. You had to bring your A-game and, even when you did, it was usually a life and death battle.

    At that point, defending the light heavyweight title and fighting light heavys was an after-thought with Moore, as he was still more concerned with the heavyweights. And he was struggling against them, having just fought a draw with journeyman Howard King four months earlier.

    Moore was half-assing it.

    Johnson by clear decision or late-round TKO.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    16,042
    Likes Received:
    11,557
    Good point.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    27,126
    Likes Received:
    44,867
    I'm quite literally the biggest Marvin fan on here with you, but this isn't true. Roy Jones half-assing would beat Marvin, as would Spinks or Foster.

    A prime Moore, Conn, Loughran or Ezz would also beat Marvin without putting full effort in. Among others. Hell even this version of Moore would.