Ranking Pacquiao among the greats

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  1. hotshot

    hotshot New Member Full Member

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    Do you think he would do well against the legends? What do you like/dislike about his boxing?
     
  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao is the GOAT. In a sport where a single pound creates controversy, he's been dominant as the shorter, lighter, and smaller guy for well over a decade.

    Pac's flaw is that he's an entertainer and will always seek to entertain and create action, which leads him to lunging in and getting countered at times.

    His welterweight run has seen only controversial losses:
    • Bradley (robbery)
    • Roidquez (PEDs)
    • Mayweather (injury, PEDs)
    • Horn (robbery)
     
  3. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

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    When it comes to matching him up against welterweight greats I think he’s simply too small. 140 and below he can beat anyone.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You have an excuse for every Pac loss. Pac fans are the worst in boxing, which is a shame because pac himself has accepted these loses now and is a likable guy.
     
  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    The overwhelming majority of fans, fighters, and media had Pacquiao clearly beating Bradley and Horn. This is not debatable.

    Before JMM III, many people, including most boxing media and anti-Pacquiao website FightHype, fervently pointed out JMM's explosive growth in size and muscle. He later on showed up to the Alvarado fight w/ massive amounts of pimples on his chest and back.

    Floyd rejected VADA, drug test penalties, and used illegal IV fluids.

    Facts aren't excuses.
     
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  6. george14

    george14 Member Full Member

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    Coming from a Floyd nut swallower, that's hilarious.
     
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  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stop with the "controversy" about the Floyd fight.
     
  8. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao had two knockout losses at flyweight. Flyweight! They are not talked about much but happened.

    How does a guy, suffering back to back knockout losses at flyweight go on to suddenly blasting guys out at higher weight classes and even taking shots from welterweights?

    Manny was a great fighter but assigning him God-like attributes is silly.

    There is this wierd thing with Pacquiao fans. Some just liked his offensive style and confuse that fan friendly style as being the most effective.

    For others, there seems to be some tribal allegiance where people identify with him so much and he gives people such hope they are not wimps that they lose all objectivity.

    If I was to hear there are people that pray to little plastic or ceramic Manny Pacquiao dolls I would not be surprised.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top 30, probably at 25. 2 places above Mayweather.
     
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    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Coming from a bitter ****boi banned alt that's hilarious.
     
  12. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Avoided VADA testing, drug testing penalties, and used illegal IV fluids. Are you dumb?
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excuses! One can argue that JMM should have been 2-1-1 against Pac but you don't hear JMM fans cry about it.
    Pac lost to Horn in a close fight a close fight does not equal robbery same with Bradley.
    PBF clowned Pac he fought the same way he always does and didn't throw 100 punches a round nor did he all of a sudden show big power. Him being on PEDS are an excuse period. PBF beats any version of Pac because he's a stylistic nightmare for him and a better boxer.
    You have an excuse for every Pac loss
    Torrecampo he was a starving kid
    Sangsurat same
    Morales his socks or blood

    I have never seen a fighter whose fans make excuses for every loss like I have seen for Pac fans. You guys are basically trolls aren't fans of the sport but rather only Pac fans. When he finally retires many of you will fade away.
     
  14. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    JMM fans complain all the time. JMM roided up and got the KO, so there's less bitching there, but the hatred remains as intense as ever.

    The vast majority of fighters, fans, and media had Horn losing. FACT.

    Floyd rejected VADA, the gold standard in drug testing. He also rejected the dirty test penalties. Why? And then he used illegal IV fluids for the biggest fight in the history of the sport. Why? He wasn't severely dehydrated and IV fluids above 50 ml are illegal because they're frequently used to mask doping by flushing the system.

    You give Floyd every single pass in the book. Ultra low T/E ratios, avoiding drug testing (VADA), ducking penalties, etc..
     
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  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Top 40 fighter.

    Simply monstrous.
     
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