Ranking Pacquiao among the greats

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  1. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac fans aren’t the worst. THIS Pac fan is the worst!
     
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  2. Ironmanmt

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    Show us your scorecard for the Bradley fight.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I haven't watched that fight in years.
     
  4. Ironmanmt

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    Than how can you make this comment?

    Pac lost to Horn in a close fight a close fight does not equal robbery same with Bradley.

    The fight was not close.
     
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  5. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquaio is arguably the goat but head to head prince for prime I think the elite of elite at 130 and up beat him. Manny was/is a whirlwind but once he got to 130 and up the ALL TIMER give him trouble would favor him vs anyone below tho
     
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  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree - Pacquaio's greatness lies not in the fact that he was unbeatable or the best H2H, but rather in the many great fights he was in, and winning titles in eight-divisions.
     
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  7. tinman

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    He carried a lot more power at 126 than he did at the higher weights. It was a noticeable difference.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    He stands a chance against anyone in history at 126. That was his best weight class in my opinion.
     
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  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I don't remember what my score card was but I do remember the fight. It was a close fight that Pac being the champ probably did enough to win but he didn't get the decision. That happens in boxing. I felt the same way in Charlo-Harrison 1
     
  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Now, when you say nut, do you mean the sack or what comes out? Because, that's nasty!
     
  11. Ironmanmt

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    So Pacquiao vs Mayweather was a schooling and a beat down, yet Pacquiao vs Bradley was a close fight? It wasn't remotely close, your agenda is shining through. Bradley won maybe 4 rounds, I think I had it 10-2, can't quite remember.

    • Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
    • Bart Barry, 15rounds.com: 116-115 Bradley
    • Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • BoxingSocialist.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ryan Burton, *******.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
    • Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com:116-112 Pacquiao
    • Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Marc Livitz, SecondsOut.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Gareth Davies, The Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Rob Day, RingNews24.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
    • George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Jake Donovan, *******.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Terry Dooley, *******.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Doug Fischer, The Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
    • Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Danny Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • David Greisman, *******.com: 7-111 Pacquiao
    • Tommy Gunn, BoxingAsylum.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Thomas Hauser, HBO/TheSweetScience.com:115-114
    • Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Phil Jay, *****.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Max Kellerman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley
    • Amir Khan, Primetime: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Mike Koppinger, The Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
    • Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Juan Manuel Marquez: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 118-112 Pacquiao
    • Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Graham Parker, The Guardian: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Rick Reeno, *******.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Chris Robinson, *******.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Cliff Rold, *******.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Michael Rosenthal, The Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • John Russell, former trainer of Buster Douglas: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Luis Sandoval, *******.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
    • Lem Satterfield, The Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
    • Ronnie Shields: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Ryan Songalia, The Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
    • Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    • Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
    • Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Among the experts above, 121 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 3 scored it for Bradley and 1 had it a draw.
     
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  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hard to argue that personally I thought the first Bradley fight was a 7-5 fight either way fight II I gave to Pacman and fight III I had a draw
     
  13. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    7 and a half lol
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    There was nothing close about PBF-Pac it was a very clear win not even worthy of a rematch. Pac-Bradley 1 was much closer than PBF-Pac not even in the same league, horrible comparison.
     
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  15. Ironmanmt

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    You are completely wrong as usual. The scores are there for everyone to see.
     
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