Can Deontay Wilder pass Rocky Marcianos record in KO percentage of 87% a remain undeafeated to 49 -0

Louis was definitely NOT peak.

 

You completely missed his points here, twice.

Marciano had no amateur career, but he was more moved along than Wilder and accomplished more in a shorter time span whilst less experienced.

His point is that Wilder is ducking Joshua, which is a fight his legacy depends on if he wants to be comparable to Marciano.

 

I'd like to say yes, but somebody made a thread of the rankings of all Wilder's opponents. Had me embarrassed to say he's a fav of mine.

 

You're box-reccing is almost as impressive as your disingenuousness. New York's system was too do that, they didn't make knew rules, they followed the original ones. Rocky was undefeated with no draws. Wilder, isn't.

New York State Athletic Commission Rules-June 29th 1956-amended May 1st 1984:

217.3 The tally and the decision. At the conclusion of the bout, each official must tally up the rounds and the points he has awarded each contestant and submit his scorecard to the announcer after such scorecards have been checked by the commission representative they must be returned to the announcer, who shall announce the decision of the officials from the ring, and in the main events the announcer shall call out the the rounds and the points awarded by each official. The boxer who has won the most number of rounds on the scorecard of the official is the winner on that officials scorecard, except when a boxer has not been credited with the greatest number of rounds, he may be declared the winner of the bout on an officials scorecard if, in the judgement of the official, such boxer has defintely proven his spuperiority over his opponent, has finished in better physical condition than his opponent, and has been awarded by each official a greater number of points than those awarded by such official to the opponent.. If the official has not awarded the decision as thus set forth, and if there is no winnner by rounds, the decision must be awarded to the boxer with the greatest number of points. If no decision has been awarded and the rounds and points are both inclusive, the winning boxer is the one who in the officials opinion is in better physical condition at the end of the bout. The boxer who has been awarded the decision on two of the official's scorecard is the winner of the fight.

 

Ok , he was nearer HIS peak than Jersey Joe was,by that I mean Joe Louis had defendied his title 23 times, 20 by knockout.....(pedantic)

 

I don't know, the first fight was Joe's peak imo, otherwise what else would it be? The Charles fights? That's a lot closer to the first Louis fight than Louis' peak performance.

Anyways, your point still stands and is a good one. Jersey is good, and underrated for the most part(although massively overrated on classic).

 

Wilder has a draw on his record, FACT!

That makes it a statistical impossibility for him to match let alone surpass Marciano’s record, FACT!

So, despite all the attempts by him and his handlers, they’ve failed to manufacture the historical character they’ve tried so hard to create!

 

Im not sure where Wilders fanboys get their front to be honest!
Here’s Deontay fight record, take a good look at the quality of his opponents and ask yourself how many of them had any ambition to get up off the canvass?

Look at Wilders opponents in his 16th to 23rd fights and compare that with Joshua’s.
Wilder has fought 3 men who occupied a rank inside the top 10 at the time of the fight,
FFS THREE! THREE FFS! (Can I exclaim this any more to highlight that stat)
One of those was ‘paper Champion’ Bermaine Stiverne who’s ranking was manufactured!
Only 12 of Wilders 43 fights have been against an opponent inside the top 100 rankings
19 are Unranked and most of the rest are outside the top 300 or even 400 ranked fighters!

Please, don’t anyone try and argue that Wilder is an ATG with that dross as a resumé!

It’s embarrassing!!

Fight Nō - Opponent - Rank at Time of Fight
1 - Ethan Cox - Unranked
2 - Shannon Gray - Unranked
3 - Richard Green - Unranked
4 - Joseph Rabotte - 393rd
5 - Charles Brown - Unranked
6 - Kelsey Arnold - Unranked
7 - Travis Allen - Unranked
8 - Jerry Vaughn - Unranked
9 - Ty Cobb - 399th
10 - Alvaro Morales - Unranked
11 - Dustin Nichols - Unranked
12 - Shannon Caudle - Unranked
13 - Harold Sconiers - Unranked
14 - Dan Seehan - Unranked
15 - Deandrey Abron - Unranked
16 - Reggie Penna - Unranked
17 - Damon Reed - 304th
18 - D Alexander - Unranked
19 - Daniel Cota - 489th
20 - David Long - Unranked
21 - Marlon Hayes - 368th
22 - Jesse Oltmanns - 492nd
23 - Owen Beck - Unranked
24 - Kertson Manswell - 310th
25 - Damon McCreary - 357th
26 - Kevin Price - Unranked
27 - Matthew Greer - 325th
28 - Audley Harrison - 136th
29 - Siarhei Liakhovich - 43rd
30 - Nicolas Firtha - 121st
31 - Malik Scott - 86th
32 - Jason Gavern - 194th
33 - Bermaine Stiverne - 5th - WBC World Title
34 - Eric Molina - 37th
35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th
36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th
37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th
41 - Tyson Fury - 4th
42 - Domonic Breazeale - 15th
43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th
44 - Tyson Fury - Scheduled

 

I agree too much is made of PPV numbers and dollars generated. That's a measure of popularity, business acumen and salesmanship, not boxing ability.

It is not the measure of boxing greatness, no matter what Floyd Mayweather says.

 

"better, younger, bigger, stronger, hungrier guys"
Give me some examples.

 

I 100% agree with this. I certainly question as to if he has the power to be effective at HW. He doesn't need to be a one shot KO artist but he has to have enough power to get the opponents respect. Jury's out on that.

 

Technically, Chris Arreola retired on his stool at the end of the 8th Round!

Some will conveniently call it a TKO but it’s not is it!

 

Should be a great fight. I think Wilder's going to connect and take it but it's not inconceivable that Fury outpoints him.

The only outcome that would shock me is Fury stopping Wilder.

 

Marciano faught the best available in his time. I do think he benefited from coming up at the right time.

He did come up at a time when a lot of the contenders were on the older side.

All that being said, he did what he had to do and beat those put in front of him.