Dave Allen - Fixed Fight Press Reports

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  1. Accurate

    Accurate Jump back, wanna kiss myself! Full Member

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    You watched that fight AGAIN! was painful enough watching it the first time..
     
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  2. destruction

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    https://www.kbcchannel.tv/2020/02/1...on-after-large-surge-on-0-33-around-knockout/

    The Gambling Commission and the British Boxing Board of Control have launched an investigation into allegations of illegal betting on David Allen’s third-round stoppage victory over Dorian Darch.

    Sportsmail has been told that several major bookmakers reported suspicious betting activity on the fight to the Gambling Commission on Monday.

    The heavyweight bout, which took place on the undercard of Kell Brook’s return to the ring in Sheffield on Saturday, ended in Allen winning by a third-round stoppage.

    Several major bookmakers reported suspicious betting activity on the fight between the pair

    Allen coasted through the first two rounds before flooring Darch twice early into the third round before the fight was waved off.

    One bookmaker told Sportsmail that their odds on Allen winning in the third round had been slashed from 5/2 to even money because substantial money was being placed.

    The General Secretary of the British Boxing Board of Control, Robert Smith, told Sportsmail: ‘I have had conversations with the Gambling Commission this morning and we are just waiting to hear what their findings are before they report back to me.

    ‘We have a very good relationship with the Gambling Commission, I presume most sports do, we contact each other now and again and this is nothing unusual.

    ‘Something has obviously been picked up and been reported to the Gambling Commission. The first port of call is we have spoken to them and we are waiting for them to come back to us with any concerns or findings they have after which we will consider what we will have to do.

    ‘We do not want to speculate. We will wait to hear back from them. They are looking into the matter.’
     
  3. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ****ing hell if that towel comment means what we think it means Browne and his trainer must be two of the dumbest twats around. Have they never watched boxing on TV before ?? Cuz if they had they'd be aware that there are microphones picking everything up.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Haven't seen Allen vs. Darch, and I'm not saying fight-fixing doesn't happen, but 99% of times idiot fans start crying "fix!" en masse, there's blatantly no fix.
     
  5. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The betting patterns pre fight and then the result matching those betting patterns are the proof here. Not the idiot fans.

    The odds on a 3rd round stoppage narrowed with a number of betting companies pre fight. Betting companies reported suspicious activity. Then the actual result matched it.

    How did all these people independently decide it would be a 3rd round stoppage? Then get it right? Surely cant be a coincidence and puts Dave Allen in the thick of it.
     
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  6. TonyHayers

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    The question that this begs is whether this is an insider tip much like loads of others which don’t come true; just this one has come true.

    I remember getting tips a few years ago from a bloke who knew some guy ‘in the know’ about French football fixtures. Had the magic touch until one result fell to bits and there was no inside info; it was Just Chinese whispers.

    Allen in three was probably one of the shortest prices for an individual round. Not saying it isn’t fixed by the way but betting alone doesn’t nail him without doubt.
     
  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The gambling Commission will look into the types of bets being made against the usual behaviour on those accounts.

    If an account has only ever made £1 bets and £2 accumulator bets for 12 months, then suddenly puts £150 on Allen by KO in round 3. That is suspicious.

    If there are 50 examples of this, then they will have very strong evidence.

    However there is really no way of 100% proving it was fixed, unless someone comes forward and makes a statement.
     
  8. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No I know that, what I’m saying is that tips are often a little like Chinese whispers. Usually they’re proven to be nonsense because the result doesn’t come in, but sometimes the scenario can be that the tip is nonsense and Allen isn’t in on the fix, but the result needed does happen.
     
  9. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Be very difficult to prove to courtroom standards, but this story won't do Allen's chances of appearing on future Matchroom bills any good.

    He may sell some tickets if there's more Yorkshire cards on the horizon, but between the failure to act professional, the health concerns and now this, is he really worth the hassle?
     
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  10. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    As pointed out above, this is being investigated due to suspicious betting patterns which, aside from secret recordings is the most compelling evidence for match fixing in sport.

    The snooker player Stephen Lee was banned from snooker for 12 years pretty much on the basis of suspicious betting patterns only. If you look at the games he actually was alleged to have fixed, the shots he missed would seem totally innocuous to the average viewer.

    So it’s not like the cries of match fixing when Canelo knocked out Kovalev.
     
  11. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I’m not sure I agree that Lee’s shots seem innocuous. The one where he fluked the colour (blue?) to leave himself perfect on the pink in a frame he had to lose was laughable as was his face when he potted it.
     
  12. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    In the case of Mr Twerry Odonner mate, his contribution to the fixed debate is absolutely beyond the terms gross incompetence and his legendary cards must go down as beyond any rational logic, considering his entire career experience, if not corrupt.
     
  13. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it really a fix tho. Or is it just an overmatched opponent that can be taking out at anytime. Similar to haye with audley. Looks to me like allens fancied making some money on it and told a few too many people. Its not really a fix....dave still has to get rid of him in the third. Anything can happen in a boxing ring.

    Dont think darch was in on it....he looked genuinely hurt just prior to getting put over. Hit on the jaw and legs wobbled...we,ve seen it hundreds of times before.
     
  14. carlingeight

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    My take on it as well mate.

    When you consider how much nonsense Allen talks in public, I can only imagine the conversations with his mates behind closed doors. He's probably made an off the cuff comment saying he can take Darch out any round he wants, his mates have probably goaded him and said take him out in round 3 then. Allen says he will, and his mates duly put on some bets. As it gets nearer the fight too many of them have blabbed.
     
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  15. ZiggerZagger

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    As someone who has worked in this industry for years it's not surprising that bookmakers report suspicious betting activity when it comes in, not so much when the bets lose.
     
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