No, you just weren't watching boxing back then, casual. Jennings had beaten Perez (top 10), Spzilka (top 20), Fedosov (top 30), and lost 8-4 Wlad. Since Jennings wasn't a gatekeeper until the last year or two, Chisora would be a more notable one since he spent an entire decade tending one that Jennings had already passed.
Far more is a stretch. He is more skilled yes, but people try to act like Ortiz was a top echelon Cuban boxer. He wasn't.
First off, I never said Ortiz had a great resume. So how did we again get on this point? That was your agenda to argue Ortiz is not good. I only said what mattered. Ortiz is better than Rivas and Chrisora which u just agreed too lol. CLearly u should know better to judge a boxer off of who beat who and that's why another fighter beat this fighter. It's called style makes fights. Tony Thompson could very well beat Chrisora. There is nothing great or even good about him.
No, because your to incompetent to even know how to debate moron. Just look at what u just said in response to me lol. U can't even put a insulting sentence together lol.
There are too many ifs and buts holding your argument together fact is Ortiz wasted his career fighting bums for a supposed boogeyman Whyte is out here facing povetkin... Ortiz had 200 years to pick up the phone and fight povetkin but he aint in the business of taking initiative to do such things... he is a sucka like yourself depending kn free hand outs from the lord master Wilder Don Finkel This is what Whyte does: YO PARKER WHERE YOU AT??? YO POVETKIN WHERE YOU AT?? YO RIVAS YO CHISORA YO ORTIZ He gets **** done bruv.... you just talk ****
He probably was but thats not what i disputed. When you just say a guy was ranked top 10 , it means he was ranked top 10 by Ring. An Alphabet ranking doesn't really mean anything. You can call Trevor Bryan the #1 in the world if going by organizational rankings. Only Ring is referenced when counting up wins against guys ranked in the To 10.
There is no ifs or buts that Ortiz would beat Whyte. Whyte has one good win against Parker. Rivas resume is weaker than Ortiz. Ortiz KO's Rivas, and he beats Chrisora.
This fight is not confirmed and it will not happen, book it. Ruiz will fight a tomato can and so will Ortiz. Then both will scream about getting another shot. Unfortunately that's how these fighters do nowadays. Very rarely do we have two guys who will fight anyone, like Whyte does. Most want low risk/high reward fights and all of us boxing fans suffer because of it.
I cant see Haymon being willing to cash in on Ortiz by arranging this fight and dismissing the "bogeyman" myth that the PBC media have worked so hard on to build up Wilders reputation.
The longer this thread goes on, the less I believe that Ruiz has signed anything. There is potential for another 2-3 good fights for Ortiz, but who know if anything will be materialised. Ruiz and co will be in the business for another 5-8 years, unlike Ortiz. So if anyone wanna fight him, they better hurry up.
