Deontay Wilder will never be the real HW champion unless he fights and defeats Anthony Joshua

Guys an idiot dismissing Ruiz... when he is easily top ten and would beat most guys... lets see what he does to Ortiz.. if he fails to put ortiz lights out ill eat my words

 

Nice trolling, are you owner of Ring magazine by any chAnce???

AJ has four belts and Ruiz is way tougher tham Ortiz and he prime and young regardless of bodyweight he beats Ortiz next

 

Winner of Wilder vs Fury has to fight AJ in order to be the true and only Heavyweight champ.

 

Is this why Wilder never faced Ruiz ??? & thay both fight in the USA

 

The winner of Fury-Ortiz is the TRUE Heavyweight Champion.

After Saturday, Joshua will be viewed like Ernie Terrell, Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas, Francesco Damiani, Ray Mercer, etc. He'll be a beltholder while another man reigns as World Champion.

Maybe Joshua will get a crack at the winner on Saturday. Maybe he won't.

 

Don't you mean Wilder?

Beat it. Joshua is much better than all the guys you just said. He is the unified champion and last time I checked, Wilder turned down 100 million offer from DAZN to fight AJ.

 

Madness to think Deontay needs to beat that overrated bodybuilder to become the number 1 heavyweight. Beating the undefeated lineal champion will be enough to cement Deontay's legacy as the true champion. Until grandpa Ortiz loses to somebody else, then that's still 2 solid wins. Joshua overcoming that disgusting blob in the rematch means nothing because Ruiz already lost to Parker when he was in better shape. Wlad was already embarrassed by Fury, and Povetkin has never been a dominant champion, in the division. lol

 

Joshua recently got KTFO by a fat man in what was supposed to be a joke fight. He's not No. 1 in the division on the basis of winning the rematch, but he will be No. 2 after Saturday night. I agree he's too significant in the division for there to be closure without him.

But to the point of the thread, Saturday's winner will unquestionably be No. 1. You can think Joshua would win, but based on his record -- to include getting battered and stopped by Ruiz -- he has no claim over Saturday's winner. He has the best collection of wins in the division, but he also has a horrible and recent knockout loss.

 

All said and done, Wilder has a pathetic resume, even if he beats Fury. Is Fury the same fighter he was when he beat Wlad? probably not going on his last two showings. Wilder's avoidance of any hard hitting opponents is laughable and it's a risk he won't take. The man gets caught so many times as soon as he goes in with a live puncher he will be baptized.

 

What a bunch of BS. You can't just slag off Joshua's defeat like that. His resume indeed is quite good, which is why he gets to be No. 2 after Saturday night.

If Wilder wins, he will:

1) Have a better win than any of Joshua's;
2) Be undefeated (or have only one competitive decision defeat, if you prefer); and
3) Not have a devastating knockout loss within the past year.

As such, he'll be ahead AJ.

If Fury wins, he will:

1) Have two better wins than any of Joshua's (arguably three);
2) Be undefeated; and
3) Not have a devastating knockout loss within the past year.

As such, he'll be ahead of AJ.

Cry about as much as you like, but the factors I listed above are the determinative ones, not the stuff you just spewed.

 

I've never understood this thinking...

Fury beat Klitschko, which propelled him to his current position, which I completely appreciate.
Joshua had a tough fight with Klitschko not long after and put him into retirement.

At that time Wilder was fighting the likes of Gerald Washington.

From that time who have they fought?
Look at their last 5 fights and it doesn't take long to see who has fought the significantly better opposition.
If you're going to tar Joshua's name because of his loss to Ruiz, then you need to do the same for Wilder for his loss to Fury.
Just like if you are going to credit Wilder for stopping Ortiz after losing every round (and almost being stopped in the first fight), you should credit Joshua for stopping Wlad after being put on the canvas.

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- Wilder (who he beat in the majority of viewers eyes)
- Wallin...
- Schwarz...
- Pianeta...
- Seferi...

Yes, I understand he came off a huge lay off, but that shouldn't give him a handicap advantage against Wilder & Joshua when it comes to their respective rankings and opponents.

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- Ortiz rematch (he lost every round up until the KO)
- Breazeale - the same guy that Joshua fought back in 2016!
- Fury (who he arguably lost to)
- Ortiz first fight
- Stiverne...

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- Ruiz rematch (Near enough a shutout against the man that previously beat him)
- Ruiz - KO loss - Stopped in dramatic fashion
- Povetkin
- Parker - Former belt holder that Joshua dethroned
- Takam - Wilder fans will not agree, but this is a fighter that I consider just as good as the 'boogeyman' Ortiz

1. Joshua - Best result is beating Wlad followed by giving Parker his first loss, losing & then avenging his loss to Ruiz
2. Fury - Best result is dethroning Wlad followed by stopping Chisora and then beating Wilder (but robbed for a draw)
3. Wilder - Best result is a draw with Fury followed by 2 fights with the Ortiz

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What have Wilder & Fury done that give them the top spots? I'm genuinely interested to see the logic behind it...

 

Nope. A win over Fury plus two KOs over Ortiz is not "pathetic." It's not great for a champion his age, I agree, but he has taken on much tougher challenges of late.

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL TIMESTAMPED LISTEN TO WILDER THE BUFFOON

AHEM WHYTE DIDNT GET OPPORTUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!


AHEM AJ GAVE YOU PLENTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LOL WILDERS FACE WHEN THEY BRING UP DILLIAN WHYTE IN THE VIDEO HAHAHAHA CLASSIC

 

It’s weird how the guy with most belts is No.3, and either No.1 or No.2 has no belt...