Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury II

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Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2020.
  1. Wilder on points

    0.8%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    46.1%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Fury on points

    37.3%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    I didn't know he fought chisora twice. That says a lot about Fury's record honestly.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    My apologies, I'm too old for the teletubbies. To each their own though.
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This idea that everyone is so afraid of AJ is absolutely insane. These dudes and their inferiority issues are sad. AJ is a good fighter, no doubt, but he got his ass kicked and lost his top spot, period.
     
  4. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have zero problems with this. Back in the day it was common for rivals to fight each other upwards of 4 or 5 times in their careers. I don't think an immediate rematch would happen by the summer if one or both guys end up getting hurt badly in this rematch, but I'm very impressed with both of them for seeking out this dangerous challenge with one another. Much respect to both men.
     
  5. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Wilder took him lightly in the last fight, I just don't think he was ready to fight someone so tall. I doubt he's fought anyone in his pro career as tall or taller than him before, he's usually punching downward on his opposition. It became apparent to me from early on in their fight that the trajectory of his punches were off and the way Fury was able to bob, weave and dip down from the hips/pelvic area made it very hard for Wilder to gauge the distance on his punches properly.

    I've watched Fury for about 8 or 9 years now, he came on my radar with his first fight against Chisora. He has deceptive power but it usually only comes when he sits down on his punches and is not in perpetual motion while circling around his opposition throwing out his jab (when he looks the best IMO.)

    I don't subscribe to the notion that Fury can fight THAT much better from a defensive standpoint compared to the first fight and I'm actually not too shocked with his philosophy shifting into an all attack mode in this rematch. I personally think it'll be counterproductive and Wilder will eventually catch him at some point.

    I expect a mid to late stoppage, probably by the 8th or 9th round in an entertaining fight.
     
  6. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Won't be no rematch if Fury get KO'ed!
     
  7. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's not one judge or referee that has an infallible record. If you scrutinize their resume enough you can come up with arguments about flaws in every judge/referee, irrespective of the location.

    As some have mentioned, there was 1 American judge in the last fight and he was the only one that scored it for Fury.

    The judges and ref for this fight are very experienced and hopefully a knockout occurs so none of these individuals will be remembered as being an interference in the rematch.
     
  8. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bayless refereed Wilder Ortiz 2. You might have noted he waved it off after a 9 count at the end of the 7th, when Ortiz would have gotten a minute to recover in the corner...

    Also, this set of judges worked the Canelo GGG fights...make of that what you will...

    As much as they may favour the home fighter, it could be said that they also favour the fighter who had the Vegas residency. I think this was Fury and Arum's intention when they moved him to Vegas.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    you dont know what culture is lol
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Look buttercup You & that klutz IsaL keep talking about crying but When are you going to answer my question........
    Why wont that ginger headed coward fight GGG in MSG The Mecca of Boxing ??? The answer is simple. Ginger & that cross dressing clown are not sure they can live with him in a fair fight in fact I think they KNOW Ginger cannot beat GGG LEGITIMATELY. By refusing that fight it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt Ginger is a COWARD!!!!!! Without the corruption & the Ped's & the benevolent judges Ginger is a fraud
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Damn youre ****ing insane
     
  12. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ironically I'd prefer American as oppose to British judges now that Fury is under Arum and ESPN, as it'll probably be fairer than three British judges that are still outraged by Fury's comments about their pet groups. I don't think the British judge did Fury any favours last time.

    Ideally, you'd want some non American 'neutrals'. But I think it's important to realise that in this case Fury is something of an outsider with the British establishment and the boxing authorities, he doesn't even have a British boxing license anymore. The comments from Hearn about Fury 'abandoning' the UK, wouldn't surprise me if British judges tried to punish him for leaving (after being witchhunted out of there) because now Fury is getting the big fights they want him in the UK for prestige.
     
  13. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Eddie was right
     
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  14. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    Costello & Bunce podcast has just been uploaded and Bunce says that when he asked Andy Lee if Tyson was ok he looked around to make sure nobody was listening and replied "not really, he's done too much press"........
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    And I repeat....
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