Wilder v Fury II

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Ha, likewise to be honest. I didn't have a horse first time round and I don't this time either really. But there's a fanatical Fury fan I despise and I want his misery more than anything else.
     
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  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had no choice but to carry on that BJS hate, he was waaay too fsr down that road haha.

    Fury just chats **** of the highest order when in character.
     
  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hahaha fair enough.

    To be honest I always wonder what would be funniest, seeing fury get sparked and Hattonmad in hell or seeing Fury spark wilder just to see Hayers in hell.

    Same with Aydam, dont know if it would be funnier seeing Whyte smash one of the top 3 just to see the gloating or see Whyte get smashed and see his crying.

    All scenarios are a winner for my bored time entertainment!
     
  4. Furious

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    I think the best scenario if that's what you're looking for is Fury beating Wilder and then going on to beat Joshua. That would wind up a lot of people, especially those idiots on Twitter.

    I'm really looking forward to this fight anyway, want Fury to win but think Wilder will get the KO.

    Would never write Fury off though and think spending a year training solely boxing (not weight-loss like 2018) could be a big factor.
     
  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Push comes to shove, I've spent more time defending Wilder recently than Fury so I suppose I could do with that big windmilling idiot pulling it out of the bag.

    As for your second scenario, I think I prefer the latter. Although that would be excused away in some delusional manner much the same way Spong failing a test was.
     
  6. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I certainly won't be in hell. I remember this sort of nonsense after Ruiz beat Joshua. I obviously thought Joshua would win but it didn't mean anything to me. I'm not financially involved in it. I've never met the man let alone been a friend of his. I enjoy watching him fight because I find his fights largely entertaining but him losing doesn't mean he'll stop fighting.

    If Fury wins I actually think we'll spend more time afterwards discussing Wilder. I've compared him to David Tua in a weaker division and I really, genuinely think if Fury wins and wins clearly that may be what we remember Wilder as. Of course he's a massive puncher; that goes without saying. But what else has he done?

    He's been a world champion for five years and has had forty three fights in a twelve year professional career. The Fury rematch will see him reach the same number of pro fights that Lennox Lewis had in his entire life. During his five years as champion Klitschko, Joshua, Fury, Parker, Ruiz and Martin have all at some stage been world champions; he's beaten none of them. During the five years he's been a world champion Whyte, Pulev, Povetkin and Usyk have been highly ranked contenders; he's beaten none of them. Since he turned pro Valuev, both Klitschko's, Chagaev, Haye, and Povetkin have been world champions; he's beaten none of them. Indeed, in twelve professional years and five years as a champion, he's only ever beaten two men who have ever held a world title, and they are Bermane Stiverne and Sergei Lyakhovich. The latter coming off a run of two wins in seven years.

    It's pathetic. His career hangs on rating Luis Ortiz as a stone cold killer. Don't get me wrong - if Fury takes him to school he deserves plenty of credit. But let's not pretend Wilder has anything other than a demonstrably awful record compared to genuine great heavyweights.
     
  7. Twentyman

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    I love watching both fighters, and they’re on the opposite sides of the boxing style/tactics. I think Wilder’s personal story/journey is just as fascinating as Fury’s, or maybe more so with me being a dad. It would make a good story for a movie.

    Both fighters have to make adjustments for this fight. Fury needs to be more proactive and force the fight more, but keep being awkward, spoiling, holding and switching. I want to see some straight right/left (depending on stance) shots and hooks. Doubling the jab and making Wilder miss just isn’t enough.

    Wilder needs to also double up that jab. He has to be more patient for me this time. Contrary to what some people think, you can’t just walk straight in on Fury and throw a wild shot. He’ll get ground down doing that, and it takes a little more out the tank when they miss.

    Credit to both lads for fighting each other, in their prime. May the best man win. I think it will be Fury via late stoppage or points but will chuck £20 on a Wilder win (evens).
     
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  8. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think anybody can really dress up Wilders CV. I would argue that could have had a younger Ortiz on his CV and he was going to Russia to face Povetkin. We are all disappointed by his career thus far but he is now stepping in with Fury for a 2nd time. I don't care what they have done before as people have different career paths for whatever reason. Fact is Wilder is here now and knocking people out. We all know what he is, a limited boxer with a decent jab and power that any boxer in history would want. He is a very dangerous opponent and that cat be denied.
     
  9. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at the state of you, pretending to be reasonable. Give up the act. You despise the man and spend countless hours of every day bashing everything the man has ever said and done.

    Go away you seething fool.
     
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  10. nurological

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    Id like to see more feints from Wilder. As soon as he does that fury will do his big duck down and thats when Wilder needs to become active. A step to his left and throw as fury reaches the bottom or on his way back up.
     
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  11. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Fury loses he loses. You won't hear me complaining or crying. Boxing moves on and I'll either be looking forward to the trilogy, or a Wilder/AJ fight which IMO is the best fight in boxing. There's boxing on every other week to keep me entertained gentlemen.

    The reason I talk about Fury so much on here is because the unjustified obsessive ridicule is disgraceful.
     
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  12. Twentyman

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    The way Fury does that duck down thing, you can’t help but think a fighter we all know who has a big uppercut as his signature shot would make him pay for doing that. Wilder seems to have phenomenal power in his right hand from range, but his short hooks from either hand and his uppercuts appear to be almost pitiful in the power he generates imo. I’d be staying right on his chest if I was Fury, pushing him against the ropes so he can’t step back and throw.
     
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  13. TonyHayers

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    You could just as easily say if Fury draws he draws. But you spent ages crying and moaning about 'the worst robbery in the history of the sport' in your usual over-reactive shrieking way regarding all things Fury.

    Let's face it, if Fury does what he did last time, namely stick his tongue out twice a round, land seven punches a round, get knocked down twice and not win you'll still be beating your gums about it being a masterclass.
     
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  14. zulander

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    Think we will see some of this. I think early Fury will keep it much like fight one take some of the early speed away from Wilder. Move jab not a lot else. From 3 on wards i'm expecting he will try and pick opportunities to get to up the work rate in terms of punch out and maybe make it ugly at times hold on then pot shot out of the clinch.. I hope we see more punching and less clowning from Fury this time keep the concentration at 100%

    Gunna be fascinating what ever happens.

    I do wonder at the back of my mind even tho he hasn't shown any major signs yet - how long does Wilder have left? 34 lots of fights on the clock. If his speed of hand slows down in the next year 18 months will he still be a force - Weekend might give us a clue
     
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  15. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You spunked over AJ running from a fat midget for 12 rounds you fool. And that was after saying you didn't care much for AJ because the fat midget had sparked him.

    Your double standards are hilarious! Back in your basement you creep.