Deontay Wilder will never be the real HW champion unless he fights and defeats Anthony Joshua

Forty Ounce inflatable gloves? Stopping a round immediately if Joshua feels too threatened? Making Wilder fight in a full astronaut suit? I have no idea either.

 

Lineage starts when #1 and #2 face. That's not opinion or a speculation, that's a fact. You may disagree with the Ring's rankings, but to say that you have to be undisputed and hold all the belts to start a lineage is simply false.

 

Any speculation incoming on how Wilders 'MUSCLE MASS' is able to fluctuate by anything up to TWENTY FIVE POUNDS across a handful of fights given that Joshua was slated for bulking up similarly over a number of years.

Fifteen pound increase since his second fight with Ortiz. That's some impressive bulking up right there. Fury will likely just look like a fat fook with his extra weight increase whereas Wilder looks to have the exact same percentage of body fat.....hmmmmm......interesting.

 

Absolutely! This fight will sort out, barring a draw again, once and for all the true Heavyweight champion of the world!

 

SINCE WHEN ARE BLATANT DUCKERS PUT AT 1 and 2....in the future boxing and boxing fans will look back at this era and the fans promotors and fighters as a bunch of FAIRIES

 

This has all been done, ad nauseum, in multiple threads.

Positions are set, opinions polarised.

There are some that buy into the competing narratives set out by team Haymon and Arum or team Hearn. There are others that are unconvinced by either side.

You think AJ doesn't want to fight Wilder. I think the offer Wilder turned down from DAZN makes that argument impossible to sustain. Whatever, it's probably better to focus on what each man has done in the ring.

I set out further back https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...-defeats-anthony-joshua.644359/#post-20313041

that each of the three guys claiming supremacy in the division have big questions over their status. Can you honestly tell me that a win over Fury will answer those questions where Wilder is concerned?

 

You don't become the top guy by avoiding the resident top guy and fighting to s draw with someone!! You gotta fight the top guy and yes Joshua lost but he avenged that defeat, reclaiming his 3 HW titles and his place on the top of the pile!

 

no sorry as much as I like wilder he clearly doesn’t want any part of Joshua. Let’s be real.

 

joshua be duckin doh

 

Eh. Tonight is the proof that this part of your post is wrong. Wilder taking on Fury who already proved that he's more than capable of beating him is proof that he's not the cherrypicker he once was, and he wanted the immediate rematch on top of that, until Arum and Fury's side wanted to delay it.

 

AJ is the top dog in the pay stakes, legacy etc are definitely number 2 in his hit list.

If DW truly wanted the AJ fight he would have taken the thin end of the purse offered, that is not fair but topdog AJ and his promoter have the ability to do that.

DW even in easy title defences earns more than 99.9% of the population, so him holding out for anything like parity with AJ purse wise is a business decision, If DW was that confident of the win then the thin end of the purse offer (which was many times his average purse), would have been small price to pay, to then hold all the belts and be topdog in any future purse negotiations.

Money first legacy second, money pays the bills, legacy does not.

 

Winner tonight will be 1) lineal champ and 2) the People's Champ. In order to be the Undisputed champ, the winner must fight
Joshua, assuming he beats Pulev. The winner of THAT fight will hold every single worthwhile belt of every single alphabet organization.

Ok? All clear now? Everyone stand down, the party's over.

 

Every era in boxing has had issues, non defences, folk frozen out etc, it is not unique to present era.