Team Wilder and Wilder himself were too over confident

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  1. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't understand how anyone thought he was a favorite in this fight given that his only brief moments of success were 2 lucky punches in the first fight where he was thoroughly outboxed for the vast majority of the fight and a fight he clearly lost.

    Clearly he himself and his team made absolutely no adjustments and frankly speaking Wilder coming in at 231 was disastrous, he did not have the same speed and there was no way in hell was Fury going to let him get a lucky punch this time.

    This rematch proved that the superior boxer, technician will always triumph the unskilled lucky puncher. Fury's inside fighting skills, holding skills, diversity in punches, feints made Wilder look like a school boy in there.

    I hope Wilder seriously fires his team for good this time if he is serious about whatever is left of his career.
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury fought very well, and I'll take nothing from him, but Wilder looked absolutely horrible from the opening bell. He looked like he'd never heard the name Tyson Fury. It's as if all his major flaws as a fighter swelled up in this fight to critical mass. It honestly reminded me of a inexperienced novice in the gold gloves who when things start going wrong panics .
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder himself was fed on delusion. His team fed him part time fighters, sick men, and the occasional professional diver, and Wilder, not really a boxer and with limited understanding of the sport, thought he was just that good.

    Wilder should hang them up now that he knows the truth.
     
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  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder can’t fight he was carefully matched and in 19 rounds with Fury he won 2 rounds. That’s it. Wilder has no Chin and no Ring IQ. He just got blown out by a feather fisted opponent.
     
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  5. edabomb

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    Absolutely. Just look at the predictions on here thinking his wins over Ortiz and Breazeale increased his stocks. The Ortiz win especially showed he is becoming even increasingly limited with age. Throwing all your eggs in one basket is a huge risk against the quality of Fury.

    There was some hilarious optimistic banter from Wilder fans on here the past few weeks though. It has been great value seeing the predictions of Wilder delivering a humiliating ko in 1 or 2.
     
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  6. UFC2020

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    Coming in at the 231 lbs was horrible, he should have stuck to the 209-210 lb to give himself the better chance, not sure if it would have made the difference but i find it even more shocking and unprofessional as to how completely for granted they took that Fury would not be able to hit harder and be more effective in the clinches at 273 lbs, Wilder once again bought nothing to the table apart from that right hand whereas we saw everything from Fury i.e. Jab, right hand, left hook, feints with the left and then producing the right hand, body punching, clinching and being on the front foot.

    For me, the Wilder camp needs to be fired for this performance and the entire game plan
     
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  7. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Just look at Wilder's trainer. The guy has no idea and celebrates like he has won the lottery every time Wilder bails him out with a ko.
     
  8. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Wilder is the Happy Gilmore of boxing..... He only has the right hand, so has HAS to believe in it..

    And I'm sure he will be confident in the 3rd fight, so should he be, he has a chance... A punchers chance.

    It's taken him this far.....
     
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  9. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could see the fear in Wilder's eyes tonight half way through round one when he realise Tyson wasn't going to stop walking him down.
     
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  10. Rock0052

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    Wilder's entire game was built on supreme self-confidence. That's what makes him dangerous- no matter what the cards are, he always believed in his home run shot. Most punchers get discouraged well before they got to Wilder's track record of knockuts.

    It ran out for him tonight, but the guy built a hell of a career off of self-confidence and a wicked right hand. It got him to the dance in the first place.

    Credit to Fury. There's a reason the smarter boxer tends to win in rematches more often than not, and that played out again today. There will be other days for Wilder, but the man is 34. It's too late to re-invent the wheel.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taking a whopping at that age doesn't bode well for a comeback does it?
     
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  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 VIP Member Full Member

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    It doesn't , and there's the risk he won't recover physically. He may well have suffered a broken jaw as well by the looks of it.

    The corner stoppage was the right move for multiple reasons- not only did it save him from worse physical punishment, but it saved him mentally because he can tell himself his corner stopped it too soon. And with what I know of Wilder, he'll probably believe it. It may not be as damaging to his confidence as can be the case when an unbeaten fighter suffers a one-sided beatdown like that
     
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