So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    If Sconiers knocked Wilder down but there was nobody there to see it did Al Haymon really have to scrub it off the internet?
     
  2. realshocks

    realshocks Member Full Member

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    You've either not read the thread or you're a wee bit hard of thinking.

    The gist: Fury can only beat what's in front of him. He travelled and smashed Wilder to a pulp as though Wilder was a journeyman. Doesn't make him an ATG, but doesn't mean he's not. What it DOES mean is Wilder certainty isn't great. Right?
     
  3. kirk

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    I actually somehow forgot about the Ruiz win... so I actually have it

    1. Fury : Wlad
    2. AJ : Wlad
    3. Fury : Wilder
    4. AJ : Ruiz
    5. AJ : Whyte
    6. AJ : Parker
    7. AJ : Povetkin

    Making it even more lopsided for AJ in terms of depth.

    Though... perhaps young Chisora should be ahead of old Povetkin... idk.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Might as well put the draw in the 4 or 5 spot.
     
  5. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha ha Ha ha Irony alert...the knob has spoken....
     
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  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont need to read through the thread. The point was there before the thread was made. Furys being hailed as a great right now by some for beating what is largely considered a fraud hypejob. I simply find it funny these two ideas existing to a substantial degree around the same fight and fighters, from largely the same community.

    Not sure what part of that you dont get, but... ok.
     
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  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A good deal shorter and a whole lot more rational, Bravo.
     
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  8. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I genuinely believe that both Chisora and Whyte have that kind of 'don't give a fook' attitude that would give Wilder fits, especially now that Wilder has been so easily dominated. Wilder could still knock either one of them cold but would have a pretty torrid time getting there, especially with the Chisora that iced Szpilka.

    That bobbing and weaving and ducking under those jabs and long punches technique he's adopted and the lead uppercuts and looping hooks are exactly the kind of tactics that would have Wilder again backing up and nullifying much of his power.

    Plus, if Fury can put Wilder on ***** Street, that dynamite left hook of Whyte could well put him to sleep.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Almost everyone(myself included) picked Wilder to knock him sparks out either late or early. Now that he won, it all means nothing all of a sudden and the win is a joke against a "farce". I guess it's fair to say that the majority of people are losers and would prefer to sleep at night healthier knowing everyone else is on their level, at least in their pathetic minds.
     
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  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    You aren't giving AJ the same pass for Ruiz you are giving to Fury for Wallin.
     
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    never was a wilder or fury hater


    but damn i did expect fury to stop wilder at some point but in a different fashion similar to how he did chisora.

    i didnt expect fury to dominate wilder that physically from round 1 ear bleeding , wilder off balance and dizzy

    that was brutal to watch i did not think fury would do a harsher job to wilder than ortiz did in the 7th round

    i expected a stoppage in the 12th backfoot style from fury . but never this . incredible performance by fury he could may very well be the best heavy weight

    congrats fury spectacular performance
     
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  12. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Is Wilder doing well? That beating reminded me of Chavez vs Taylor and Sanchez vs Gomez. I was worried he was going to collapse and we were going to watch one of those scenes where the boxer collapses and needs to be rushed to hospital. I'm being serious.
     
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  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    You don't get to have it both ways. Either accept the official record or don't. Either Joshua beat Wlad for the three titles and has been reigning for three years or Fury lost to Wallin.

    The Wlad AJ beat was better than the Wlad Fury beat. The win streak has nothing to do with how good the fighters were. Wilder would have had his **** pushed in by Povetkin, Parker, and Whyte because they are better fighters. Joshua has the clearly better record having consistently tested himself more against top contenders.
     
  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Now do that with the Wlad who fought Fury. Which Wlad was better?
     
  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Povetkin is better than Wilder. A victory over Povetkin is better than a victory over Wilder.