A few points re Wilder

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  1. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Wilder doesn't have a prayer" is a crazy statement. AJ was a come forward fighter whose whiskers are vulverable. He won't hold a shot from Wilder and we don't know how AJ will box next time out after that scared performance against Ruiz.
     
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  2. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can’t stand AJ not since the Olympics. I’ve always slated Wilder also. Thing about Joshua he came back, changed regardless of it being boring and beat Ruiz. Wilder is that bad he can’t change in any way.

    I agree with what you say, he should certainly have took the Joshua fight. Blatantly the more winnable fight even back then.
     
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  3. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Wilder has been managed very well until the 120$ mil DAZN offer then it all went downhill.
    He's been underpaid for years: Finkel and Haymon have been siphoning money off him. His purses were pitiful.

    They didn't even take him to the hospital last night after the fight. Insane treatment for their fighter.
     
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  4. EX7EY

    EX7EY YDKSAB Full Member

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    Have to take a minute to echo some of things already said on this thread in regards to wilder.

    You can't question the man's heart. He would have carried on struggling until the 12th trying to land the big right or until he was carried out on a stretcher.

    He also showed class in defeat. Stood in the ring still bleeding from his ear, battered, but still gave fury all the credit in his interview and didn't try to make any excuses.

    I don't know if he's said anything to the contrary in the aftermath but it was nice to see him show class in defeat.
     
  5. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The trouble is he can’t fight.
     
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  6. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where did you hear that about hospital? They're also gona throw him back in with Fury to milk the cow one last time when he shouldn't go near Fury again. This is after talking him out of taking 100 million to sign with DAZN as said.
     
  7. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...as-santisima-rbr.644494/page-96#post-20320569

    Fat Dan also said he had to stay after the fight for VADA urine sample, sounds like Wilder hung around the arena for awhile after the fight.
     
  8. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody is talking about the right hand Wilder landed in the first round. It was huge. Fury referenced it a couple of times, said he's a big lump on the side of his face and that he really felt the punch. I honestly thought Fury would lose the fight after seeing it. I thought Wilder was razor sharp and Fury had abandoned the head movement. But it didn't deter Fury and he even won the round and every round after that as we know.
     
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  9. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I was in the exact same boat. When I saw that right hand land I thought it was only a matter of time.

    I also gave Wilder the 2nd round but the rest was a one sided beat down.
     
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  10. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2nd round was debatable. One judge went for Wilder in r2.
     
  11. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He thought Fury was done and thought it was easy money.

    Would think very carefully about going straight back in with Fury again. Would be a nice payday but the numbers won’t be great as the demand isn’t really there after such a one sided beating.

    Fury has won 16 out of 19 rounds with him and walked him down and gave him a hiding. Time for Wilder to fight another gimme and get the KO then target AJ
     
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    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    I woke my missus up with my cheering, was made to watch four in a bed all afternoon for my sins!!
     
  13. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    That was the greatest PPV never bought mate.
     
  14. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    I paid my price, but it was worth every minute!!
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep that's exactly how I see it and now with Joshua and his team having seen Wilder exposed on the back foot, they will only fight Wilder one way, Joshua himself said so before he'd look to push him back and take away that long right hand.

    Joshua indeed is a stylistic nightmare for Wilder. Fury did 3 things to take away Wilder's right hand.

    1 - He stepped in with the jab, none of the this flicking jab business, he ensured Wilder knew his jab would have some steam behind it, so whenever he jabbed or feinted to jab he made Wilder step back.
    2 - He pressed behind that jab, putting Wilder on the back foot. Watch Wilder throw the right hand, he steps forward and launches forward, if you have him stepping back, he can't just step forward and unload the right hand.
    3 - He extends the left like a pole to keep Wilder from cutting the distance when he isn't pressing forward. Wilder doesn't duck under or slip jabs when he throws the right hand, he just launches forward with great speed to get in range, but with that left hand extended he ends up with a glove in his face preventing him from getting the forward momentum required to get full force behind that right hand.

    If you watch Joshua fight, he does all these things already as a part of his usual style. So he already has all the tools and the style to take away Wilder's right hand. Throw in Joshua's power, his inside game, superior strength and punch variety and this fight only goes one way, Wilder KO'ed early.
     
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