Wilder and his excuses.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by f1ght3rz, Feb 22, 2020.



  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    This is true. I don't think going out on his shield would help him career or legacy wise though. Breland is the only one who really knows boxing in his camp so it was right that he made the call rather than Deas.
     
  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    K...
     
  3. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Haven’t been hit before??

    You came up with that because people simply desire the truth to wether the ear drum was busted? Either it is or isn’t a burst ear drum. Nothing wrong wanting truth on that. Important in fact.

    If it was the blood that convinced you, supposedly that was from a cut inside his ear, that from Wilders camp.

    My overall point?

    Simple, don’t talk of a busted ear drum when the latest facts are stating his ear drum was not busted.

    Just stop it and do not do it again while discussing this matter unless NEW facts come in that contradict the current ones.

    Was it a huge blow with lasting effects in the ear area??? Yes it was.

    Continue forwards,,,,,
     
  4. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    My agenda? I think AJ is a clown. I have no agenda. You have an agenda. AJ has NOTHING to do with Wilder, his excuses and the Fury fight.
     
  5. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Well maybe u were born in the late 90's because there is not a bunch of high level HW today. HW division has been removed from high level fighters for 2 decades. It's a handful of high level HW's right know. It's getting better but it's not quite there yet. Ortiz looked good against Wilder. He was winning until he got KO'ed. Now did u see Fury against Otto Wallin? U see where I'm going with this? It Doesn't matter how u look in a previous fight. It's how u look the next fight. This just might be a thing. Wilder just having Ortiz number and Fury having Wilder's number. Ortiz is still at a level he can competition against a top level fighter. People are so quick to right off a fighter after they lose or get KO'ed. Like AJ, people wrote him off and he came back and revenged his lost. So can Wilder. At the end of the day, everything is subjective. U have ur opinions, I have mines.
     
  6. Jackal

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    Standing with your guard up and taking punches without throwing back for the last few rounds is the same as quitting cause no ref (or corner in this instance) will let it go on indefinitely.
     
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  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    CST i'm usually in agreement when it comes to your opinions on this board, but ah...you have to relax with the AJ stuff man.
    The dude was beaten and came back to avenge his loss like a champion should.

    Ruiz is and always has been better than the likes of the Ortiz and Stiverne type opponents that Wilder has fed on.
    Let's be realistic, if we are comparing notes at least Joshua tried. He put Ruiz down and landed a number of big shots. To Ruiz credit he ate them and kept it moving.

    You talk about Joshua not having a heart, but who did he immediately rematch, even though he was advised not to?

    Wilder on the other hand was beaten from pillar to post. In two fights he arguably won 3 rounds.
    He was put down by one of the lightest punchers in the division... there was another knockdown that should have been counted yesterday, but wasn't.

    Bayliss was horrible and gave Wilder every chance to get back in the fight, but Wilder wanted no part of it.
    He might not have quit to end the fight, but he quit in the regard that he never started fighting. When Fury cocked his head back 3 times with solid jabs, followed by Wilder landing big rights, Wilder wanted out. His face changed, he continuously went backwards and left his chin sitting there.

    Fury put on a clinic and proved how limited Wilder is.
     
  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Also didn’t Wilder say
    “The better man won tonight “

    Dude got caught in a bad situation and still refused to GO DOWN!!!!
    Credit to Wilder for wanting to actually die in the ring and not STOP

    @IsaL See you don’t know me son
     
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  9. Makuza

    Makuza New Member Full Member

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    This **** is beyond pathetic, Deontay needs to put a stop to his camp saying **** like this, embarassing.
     
  10. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Wilder isn't know for his good sportsmanship so I'm not surprised if he doesn't throw a few excuses in. Look at the last fight against Fury more excuses than I've seen from any fighter...
     
  11. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    Not Godly to make excuses

    Infidel

    He probably ate pork before the fight. Maybe some bacon
     
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  12. Plasterwraps

    Plasterwraps New Member Full Member

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    That handful of high level heavyweights are the only ones that matter. Nobody cares about cab drivers.

    I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz went from almost stopping Wilder, to landing almost at will for over 6 rounds and hardly phasing him. I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz went from getting up numerous times in the 1st fight, to getting put to sleep by what was almost an arm punch in the 2nd. I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz's punching power and chin looked sus against Hammer, before they looked even more so against Wilder in the rematch.

    The problem with this is that Ortiz looked, in the rematch, like he did against Hammer. He couldn't hurt Wilder or take a punch. Also, just because Fury performs to the level of his competition, doesn't mean everyone can.

    I don't think Wilder has Ortiz's number, I think Ortiz is just old and unlike Wladimir, doesn't have the style to deal with it. I do agree that boxing fans can be fickle, but it's not for no reason.

    Oftentimes when a boxer loses, we don't see them adjusting and bouncing back. Take Adrien Broner for example. Did he change his style after the Maidana loss? No, he continued folding under pressure. Most fighters don't have the capability and willingness to analyze themselves and fix their flaws. The ones that do, tend to wind up at the cream of the crop of their generation. I'm talking guys like Lomachenko after Salido, Sugar Ray Leonard in the Duran rematch, and Mayweather Jr in the Castillo rematch.

    Fury put out the blueprint on how to beat Wilder, and now everyone who plans to fight the latter will study it. It's not like Fury did anything spectacular either, Wilder just can't box. He's also 34 years old and 45 fights deep in his professional career. If he was gonna learn to box, he would've done so as an amateur. Instead, he went his entire boxing life committed to using his right hand as a crutch. It would be extremely difficult to change that, especially since he's at an age that wouldn't allow him much time to pull it off.
     
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  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Oh, he will have seen it....
     
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  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    ... just didn't feel like contributing....
     
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  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No actually it’s nothing like that at all.