Wilder and his excuses.

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot etreuM aL Full Member

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    I think his corner stoping it will help him with that
     
  2. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nobody likes it when a fighter makes excuses for a loss. however, there are times when they can be valid both in the ring and in life. I remember that time that I showed up at a girlfriend's place. she was all suspicious and stuff...just because I had the scent of another woman on me. Hey, can I help it if a nymphomaniac in an elevator got a little too close to me? I mean....come on. then there was the time that my dog ate my brilliant essay that I was supposed to turn in for english class...it was a piece of work.The time I once was mistaken and thought that the week had two sundays in it....and I didn't show up for work. they didn't believe that one either.. it has made me feel that the world is ...well....just down right unfair. There was a valid excuse for Wilder's loss. Fury kept punching him again and again. The impartial referee Bayliss....seemed to sense the unfairness of it all and helped Wilder as much as he could. But when a guy keeps coming forward and punching you....knocking you down and stuff...it can cause you to lose a fight.
     
  3. Jackal

    Jackal Member Full Member

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    Of course you'd say that, you're still crying over Beyonce's loss so you'll hang on to anything you can.
     
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  4. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's been tweeted and posted on various videos, Wilder's Team said that Wilder just had a cut on the ear, it bled into the ear during the fight, all the busted ear drum stuff is coming from speculation on forums and speculations that Commentators made and others of what they assumed was what had happened! Here's Wilder's Team talking about it...
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The better and well prepared man won, pure and simple. Excuses are like what we sit on, everyone has one. Not very mature to make excuses following a loss, be humble following a win, be humble as well following a loss, humility.
     
  6. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats what happens when u skip leg days smh.
     
  7. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually wanted a Slug-Fest where both hit the canvas multiple times but I assumed Fury would do what he did to Klitschko in a boring Snooze-Fest Safety First Stinker then start Showboating in the late rounds and get nailed with a right hand that even a 40 count couldn't save him from... Fury surprised me, I figured his pre-fight talk of taking the fight to Wilder and KO him was just BS Mind Games to throw off Wilder and his Team...

    Let's be Honest, the only Super Heavyweights to mangle Wilder like this was the guy they found at the Homeless Shelter "Harold Sconiers" and that Full-Time Buffet Fry Cook named "Dustin (Worm) Nichols" so Fury's name will be engraved next to theirs in the Boxing Hall of Fame!!
     
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  8. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    In 2015, Wilder won his first title from Bermane Stiverne. He went on fought Chris Arreola, then Gerald Washington who was undefeated at he time. Then rematched Stiverne, and went on to fight Ortiz. Then he fought Fury and Dominic Breazeale afterwards. Fought Ortiz again, then Fury. Non of these fighters are cab drivers. Ortiz and Fury were high level and the other were solid HW fighters.


    I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz went from almost stopping Wilder, to landing almost at will for over 6 rounds and hardly phasing him. I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz went from getting up numerous times in the 1st fight, to getting put to sleep by what was almost an arm punch in the 2nd. I guess it's just a coincidence that Ortiz's punching power and chin looked sus against Hammer, before they looked even more so against Wilder in the rematch.[/QUOTE]

    The second fight, Ortiz wasn't landing cleanly on Wilder in which he was rolling a lot of those shots. Let's not forget Wilder is known to be able to take a punch. Wilder cleanly landed a straight right hands on Ortiz to get the KO, in which he measured him at an angle and caught him flush.

    The problem with this is that Ortiz looked, in the rematch, like he did against Hammer. He couldn't hurt Wilder or take a punch. Also, just because Fury performs to the level of his competition, doesn't mean everyone can.[/QUOTE]

    Ortiz did not look like he did with Hammer. Wilder was moving a lot using the ring to keep distance from Ortiz. Fury did the opposite and kept pressing Wilder, cutting off the ring not allowing him to even reset after throwing some straight right hands.


    I don't think Wilder has Ortiz's number, I think Ortiz is just old and unlike Wladimir, doesn't have the style to deal with it. I do agree that boxing fans can be fickle, but it's not for no reason.[/QUOTE]

    Wilder beating Ortiz had nothing to do with Ortiz being old. He was being patient, keeping distance, using the jab and not telegraphing the straight right hand, which got him the win against Ortiz. Ortiz never consistently pressure Wilder like Fury. Besides, Wilder is usually the taller fighter. Fury is taller and it makes Wilder more uncomfortable than with shorter fighters.

    Oftentimes when a boxer loses, we don't see them adjusting and bouncing back. Take Adrien Broner for example. Did he change his style after the Maidana loss? No, he continued folding under pressure. Most fighters don't have the capability and willingness to analyze themselves and fix their flaws. The ones that do, tend to wind up at the cream of the crop of their generation. I'm talking guys like Lomachenko after Salido, Sugar Ray Leonard in the Duran rematch, and Mayweather Jr in the Castillo rematch.[/QUOTE]

    That's not correct about Broner. Again, Maidana is a pressure fighter. A lot of slick boxer have problems with pressure fighters. Broner problem has been not throwing enough punches. He's not busy enough. Loma, Leonard and Mayweather didn't have any flaws to fix. Their issue was fighting the wrong fight for those opponents. Especially Leonard and Mayweather. They both was trying to bang with bangers and fight on the inside. In their rematch, they both went back to their styles of being slick and boxing instead of brawling.

    Fury put out the blueprint on how to beat Wilder, and now everyone who plans to fight the latter will study it. It's not like Fury did anything spectacular either, Wilder just can't box. He's also 34 years old and 45 fights deep in his professional career. If he was gonna learn to box, he would've done so as an amateur. Instead, he went his entire boxing life committed to using his right hand as a crutch. It would be extremely difficult to change that, especially since he's at an age that wouldn't allow him much time to pull it off.[/QUOTE]

    Wrong again. Fury has a size advantage and reach advantage and is slick for a big guy which is not easy to hit him. Other fighters don't have his tools to do what he did to Wilder. The saying is a puncher never beat a top notch master boxer. No HW right now can box like Fury.
     
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  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No, I’m not...and it’s still not at all the same.
     
  10. Bondy365

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    AJ continued to fight for a further 4 rounds after? Got put down 4 times, never recovered from the shot and the fight got stopped. Would you rather Wilder had continued to fight on until he got completely knocked out taking further head damage and potentially not boxing again? AJ wasn't going to win the fight and so should he have continued to fight until he ended up in even worse shape?

    Wilder had no power left, no energy, was outclassed and getting badly hurt. He had no chance of winning the fight after round 7. What would have been the point in the fight continuing? If Fury had continued and put him down again another 2 times, do you think Wilder would have continued getting up and looking to fight on?
     
  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Serge lol Why do you call Wilder Bootleg Dorticos lol ?
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury vs Klitschko was only "boring" to casuals. It was a briliant display of scientific boxing, he rocked Klit twice, and busted up Wladdy's face. The moment when his fans, who came all the way to Germany, started chanting in the crowd when they started to realize that he was going to win, was stirring.

    If you want blood and guts, go watch ultimate barfighting.
     
  13. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    And Stiverne and Povetkin both failed drug tests for the WBC eliminator - but it's funny that the inactive Stiverne somehow got the push for the rematch against Wilder.

    Wilder's career is smoke and mirrors - he could have figured out he needed to learn how to box had he stepped up his competition earlier to see what he is lacking in. But his matchmaking ****ed him over in the long run. He is now in a position where he hasn't been forced to learn because he has been fed cans - and he is in the big leagues but not capable of boxing. He can't regress his opponents now and has lost the trinket that made him relevant.

    I hope Fury smashes him and kills that dream of Wilder's of cashing out against AJ. It's the chickens coming home to roost IMO and no one deserves it more then Wilder and Haymon.
     
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  14. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Povetkin test way under the allowed WADA limits for a drug recently banned. 'Hey best cancel the fight for a year or two so we investigate how he didn't break any rule's

    Buffet king tests positive with no excuses, slap on the wrist fine, fight continues.


    Same with Dillon whyte the wbc would have made him wait another 5 years for his mando fighting 20 eliminators.

    D titties breazeale fights one scrub and is suddenly the mando

    The wbc are a complete joke, they are probably crushed wilder lost
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Wilder is a glass jawed joke.