My point is the dominance of a jab does not rely on its length.Lewis was out jabbed by Bruno whose reach is two inches less and by Mercer whose reach is a whopping 7 inches less ..Fury found it easy to outjab Wilder because Wilder hardly threw his,Lewis would be throwing his jab and landing it, and he has the arsenal to follow up the openings it would create. Wilder never had anything more than a great right hand and lots of heart,let's not go over board because he has been exposed as the one trick pony he always has been.
I have never said otherwise. The point made by @Richard M Murrieta , citing both the stoppage losses Lewis suffered, is that he "did not get up" and, as such, was questioning Lewis' heart. Against Rahman? Sure, Lewis was poleaxed. (Although, I wouldn't say his heart was the problem, in this case.) But, against McCall, he did get up and wanted to continue, despite the referee stopping the bout. I think to question Lewis' heart, with this in mind, is perhaps a little unfair.
The thing is Fury also outjabbed Wlad, who looked to have the best jab in HW history prior to Fury Having said that Lennox wouldn't be looking to jab with Fury, he'd be going for the KO like he did with Grant, Akinwande, Vitali, Golota, Briggs
Fury has got a great jab and like has been mentioned out jabbed Wlad, Lewis could at times be very sloppy with the jab and paw with it.
Fury didn't win against Wlad because he outjabbed him,he won because his constant movment and changing of angles befuddled Wlad. I think Holmes,Louis, Ali, and Liston ,all had better jabs than either Wlad or Fury.
In what way? Fury has out jabbed every opponent he's shared the ring with? Lewis as you rightly pointed out has been out jabbed by lesser opponents than Fury.
I somewhat agree but he did land his jab against the jabber. Define better jab. Wlad won and controlled whole fights by mainly outjabbing his opponents. Commentators would somewhat truthly somewhat jokingly say 'he doesn't throw a right hand until the 7th'. He probably throws far more jabs per round than any other heavyweight. He throws his jab with weight. So for me that makes him the best ever jabber. Holmes jab is also great, but I don't think he throws as many, he takes more time off, even in his prime. So while as a single punch it is as good, Wlad threw more so was therefore better jabber in my view. He also has longer arms I believe. Ali too took more breaks than Wlad would. Louis didn't really control opponents with his jab in the same way Wlad, Holmes and Ali did. I can't see any of those being outboxed by Conn or Schmelling. Louis also 'fought small' with his jab, where as the other 3 fought long and kept distance with their jabs. That is intrinsicly part to do with style, in that Louis is hunched, partly looking to set up his left hook. But a weakness of this is he leaves his chin stuck out in doing this, which leaves him open to counters if he gets beat to the punch or timed. For these reasons he did have his biggest issues with pure boxers, so the likes of Fury, boxing on the back foot, not engaging, holding him on the inside would likely outhustle him
Yes, absolutely their top 5 wins aren't even comparable. Lewis' has much more depth. Tua beats Wilder. Prime Vitali beats old Wlad. Then there's no competition between the rest of their wins.
Is that how it goes? I thought it was: one swallow is sometimes not enough to... oh well, maybe I better not go there!
Old Klitschko and Wilder who has non existent boxing skills and only relies on one punch. Works both ways. Lennox still beat guys like Razor Ruddock, Mercer, Vitali, Tua, Morrison. He has a tremendous resume.
