Tyson Fury vs Vitali Klitschko ?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats not even true. Vitali was never a pressure fighter. Byrd literally lay on the ropes and parried and counterd a lot of his shots as he was able to see them coming.
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Just so you understand, Vitali's reach was the top reach the way HBO measure's it, from the pit of the arm's to the first at 29 1/2" Lewis himself was 29" . Long fingers mean little in terms of striking distance for boxing. Vitali was was also 6'7 1/2 Inch. Fury maybe had an inch on Wlad.

    Now you saying a 30% connect rate vs a guy out on his feet is good? You suggesting Vitali can't stop fury? Funny stuff!

    By the way, Vitali probably fought 10-11 guys ranked in Ring Magazine's top ten. He has the best rounds won to round lost ratio, not only in the history of heavyweight boxing, but ALL weight chalices among champions. To suggest he couldn't out box Fury is a joke. He also is one of two champs at heavyweight never to be floored by a punch, and one who could take 4 year off in his mid 30's and come back strong from 36-40. His KO% is also among the highs tin division history. Yet you think he sucks. Or at least try to write it that way. It won't work vs a well versed fan who knows boxing, and watched the fights.

    Vitali hurt Peter in round one. Watch the fight. Universum who had both Klitschko brothers said Vitali hit harder. Wlad was more explosive.

    Also Vitali was a mover in the ring. Not flat footed. Guys could not catch up to him. You don't know what your talking about in too many cases... Let Fury fight ten more times ( no more cherry picks outside the top 20 ) and well see where he ends up.

    As for landing percentage vs a slick tall guy, Larry Donald was tall with much better feet ( and defense ) than Wilder. Vitali had no issues landing on him.
     
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  3. Mendoza

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    He engages his man and controls the action. Vitali injured his should early vs Byrd. Still he landed 115 of 326 power shots (35%). Hardly a case study to use. Byrd also has a better chin than Fury does.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Byrd adpated pretty quick to Vitali's repetatve pattern of attack , hecne why he wasn't troubled by a single punch that landed. An inside pressure fighter would have taken Byrd out like Ike did.
    Vitali just wasn't a pressure fighter and he didn't like being up close. He simply didn't have the tools or dimensions to beat high skilled slickster like Fury.
     
  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Just because they're brothers doesn't mean they have the same potential for punching power. Muhammad Ali's brother sucked as a boxer. Michael Jordan's son failed to make a name for himself.

    Also as a side note i took kick boxing. I have no idea where you're getting this information that they encourage arm punching and being stiff. That seems to be a personal problem for Vitali.

    I'm not denying what Vitali did was efficient, he made his style work for him and he has a good record and is a formidable h2h guy. im just debunking mendoza's fanboy claim that he was some sort of devastating hitter. You can't have a track record of unloading flush power punches on stationary 38 year old targets (yet failing to KO them) and be given that title.
     
  6. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I won't argue against any of that. But Vitali simply used different technique from Wlad for whatever reason. Technique isn't genetic, it's trained technique.

    Agreed that Vitali wasn't a concusive hitter but a high volume of those punches would damage his opponent.
     
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  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    What a shocker !

    Dino predicting against a Klitschko.
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

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    -You are the king of shifting the goal posts. I don't care how you measure vitali's arms, from the armpit, across the chest, or across his nut sack. It doesn't change the fact Fury has longer arms and is the bigger man. Get over it.

    -It's because wilder was hurt that made it hard to connect. He was fighting to survive clinching and covering up. It's not like he was standing there flat footed and blocking with his face like most of Vitali's opponents.

    -Outside of a bad cut or an out of shape Fury gassing out i don't see how the arm punching Vitali is going to stop Fury when Wladmir and Wilder couldn't.

    -where in my post did i say Vitali sucked? Literally in this very thread i said Vitali had a good record and that he was a formidable h2h fighter. An easy way to spot a fanboy is that unless you're showering their favorite fighter with praise every other sentence you're a hater and any valid criticisms are invalid.

    -again stop shifting the goal posts. Hurting Peter in round 1 doesn't change the fact he couldn't floor his stationary fat ass. Or the 1 dimensional brawler Arreola. Or 38 year old versions of Sanders/Lewis/Briggs. or the tiny Chris Byrd. But he's going to knockout a prime Fury? THAT is funny stuff.

    -Vitali doesn't move as well as fury. I DARE you to make a poll and ask people to vote.

    -a 35 year old Larry Donald? The guy's best win is a 39 year old Tim Witherspoon. This is your proof Vitali would be able to neutralize Fury's footwork and stop him???
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    cobra, I corrected you many times already and answered your questions. You’re still making mistakes.

    Fury gets hit plenty. Maybe he’s got an inch in height. I’ll take the better puncher, the guy with the better chin, and the guy who throws more punches. Also the guy who was never close to outboxed.

    I already showed you Fury wasn’t that accurate despite your incorrect analysis. You just shut down when I make these points. I’m not moving goal posts. I’m Scoring points.

    You ask for a slick boxer that Vitali beat. I gave you one with a good chin, and swift feet then you say he’s 35? Funny Wilder is almost 35 too

    Vitali is pretty accurate. Fury could not take his punches over 12 rounds. Lesser men gave fury trouble, that’s a fact.

    Fury beat Wlad when he was old and a very flawed Wilder. He’s got a long way to go. He also said he would be lucky to have half the career that Wlad did.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Tough fight for both. I'd go with Fury by decision due to the obvious skill gap.
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    Yes you are shifting the goal posts because im pointing out very obvious things and you want to turn the attention to different subjects. You're scoring points because you're kicking the ball into the wrong goal!

    Also funny you claiming Byrd had a better chin than fury when he was KO'd twice and fury was never KO'd! You're BIASED and illogical.
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

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    This is how I see it also.Fury had the better fundamentals. Although he was effective, Vitali had flaws in technique and defense. It would show against Fury just as it showed against old Lewis.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aye - Could be trench warfare, this one. I think Fury would be up to it and be able to overcome.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

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    I don't believe I read these words. On a boxing site. From someone who should know better. You're lucky McVey isn't here today.
     
  15. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury schools Vilali if he's at his best.