Tyson Fury vs Vitali Klitschko ?

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  1. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, beating a one-dimensional fighter that most people called a bum does wonders for your career!
    I like Fury but all the hype is really coming in now.
    Vitali can box and punch. Fury can't punch, Vitali walks him down and stops him late. And all the trash talk won't work on Vitali.
    Wilder would never of put Vitali down. He won't of needed two fights to stop Wilder.
     
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  2. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In Byrd's defense,he was stopped by three huge punchers and one at light heavyweight when he was completely shot and weight drained.
    And Byrd would tool Wilder.
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali is flawed techncially and defensively. When he fought a skilled bigger man in Lewis, those flaws showed and Lewis was past prime. Fury has the better fundamentals. Also, your statement that Vitali would just walk Fury down is not realistic. First, Vitali is not a very effective aggressor and then 2nd Fury is too slick for that.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    K , lets put that claim to the test.

    Fury out boxing the technically superior Wlad gives a pretty good indication how he'd perform against Vitali.

    What opponent did Vitali beat that proves he could beat a skilled boxer like Fury? What skills would Vitali use to beat Fury?

    a guy who only punches in straight lines does not match up well to a guy who could move swiftly around the ring in multiple directions.

    Its like saying Jurgen Breahmer could beat Michael Spinks.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    Vitali never beat anyone as good as Fury.
    He lost to Chris Byrd and he lost to Lennox Lewis, the two best boxers he faced.

    I'd pick Fury to beat Byrd, even with one arm.
    I'd pick Fury to beat the 2003 version of Lewis as well.
    And I'd pick Fury to beat Vitali Klitschko.

    In terms of career resumes, I don't think Fury has proven himself yet, but I don't think Vitali proved an awful lot either.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree that Fury outpoints this slow and past prime Lewis. However, I think prime Lewis beats Fury.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    I'm not sure but I'd give the edge to Lewis at this stage.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    You have absolutely no idea whether Vitali was clean or not.Just as you have no idea whether Fury was clean or not when he fought Wlad ,though without a shred of evidence ,you confidently stated he was probably on PED's.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    the only reason Byrd won was an injury. Everyone knows that. It’s a lame point to build upon.

    Cobra doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Byrd went he distance with Vitali, Wlad, tua, Golota and many others. He had a good chin and took some hard shots.
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I know Vitali always tested clean as a pro boxer. I know Fury was busted on PEDs as a pro boxer. Wanna argue this? I doubt it.

    You should know this. FACT

    Since Fury was busted before Wlad and did not do VADA testing for the Wlad fight ( Facts ) there is a good chance he was on something when he beat Wlad. That’s how I see it. I’m not 100 percent sure on the second part because Fury didn’t take the test. Just using logic which eludes you.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Logic ,like truth,honesty, are words you should never use!
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Dude, I don’t have to be for a long reply this am. That will take time. You are not disputing the point I made. When I have the time I’m going to use you words and observations and burry you.

    Quick preview. Fury’s resume is less, the guys who gave him trouble would not rate as a top ten Vitali opponent. You keep saying fury is faster. Not by much but Vitali fought faster handed Guys than fury and destroyed them.

    He was an accurate hard puncher.
     
  13. mcvey

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    "Going to use you words and burry you!" It gets worse!lol
     
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  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You very probably need to do some further research on your claims above. This shouldn't be a problem for you, because you've been a researcher for a couple of decades, at least now.

    But, I'll help get you started... ...It's worth looking into...

    ...why it took 18months (Feb '15 - Aug '16) and a leak to the press before UKAD starting chasing Fury down.

    ...why, if Fury had not known about the result for all that time, he still managed to test clean on the 11 May 2015, 16 July 2015, 8 October 2015, 17 October 2015, 11 November 2015, 13 July 2016, and 4 May 2017.

    ...why UKAD took themselves to the verge of bankruptcy to prosecute the case, which appeared out of nowhere.

    ...why UKAD would not speak about the case in any shape or form to provide transparency of their process and the details of the results that they alleged provided an Adverse Analytical Finding.

    ...why UKAD denied a FOI request in respect to the case, particularly the extent to which they were prepared to defend themselves legally against claims of incompetency.

    ...why, ultimately, UKAD's final statement on the charge and, in particular, the claim that Tyson Fury had acted intentionally, makes clear that this should be deemed rebutted.



    Your statement that Fury "did not take VADA testing vs Wlad", is a little worrying, since it was the VADA testing that revealed the positive result for cocaine and the very source you cite states:

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    You need to do better research, Researcher. Being partisan will not help this cause.



    Fury is better than just a "good fighter" and, no, he did not USE PEDs.

    But, I understand why Tyson Fury will become your new hobby horse, now - because, he's proving (and in some respects already has proven) to be better than your focus of admiration, Vitali, after having already unseated the other of your boxing loves, Wladimir.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not so sure why you think Vitali has the better resume. Vitali has two losses, Fury is unbeaten. Fury also has the better top notch wins in Wladimir Klitschko and Wilder. Deontay should not be dismissed, he still has 10 title defenses and is an ATG puncher.
     
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