Wilder was not exposed against Fury, here`s why

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don`t get why people are saying that Wilder was exposed by Fury, when was clear as day, that this was a paper champ and he was managed very carefully.
    You can`t expose someone who was never any good to start with.
    He didn`t beat anyone before he become champion, and after that he was allowed to have 5 or 6 voluntary defences, and all of them was against totally D level fighters.
    And everyone knows how of a joke his mandatory challenges was.
    The only C level fighter he ever face was 50 years old Ortiz, who beat him straight up, to the time he has cardio. Ortiz punch output can carry that much 6-7 rounds and then he is gone.
    And Ortiz as i said numerous time beat no one and isn`t a proven puncher, as well as his chin is unproven.

    And the first fighter Wilder face, who is A level in Fury, he geat beat 10-2, but via robbery get draw. The second time he face Fury, who was way better than the first fight, he get KTFO.

    The guy chin is terrible, his balance is terrible, he has no timing and technique whats so ever. His speed is good, but nothing special, and the only thing he have is power, which we don`t know how powerful he really is, because he is facing truck drivers, ex alcoholics and shopkeepers.

    How in the blue hell so far he hasn`t face anyone of: Parker, Pulev, Povetkin, Whyte, even Chisora, Ruiz, Rivaz, and so on.
    He never ever try to unify, and the only thing he really is doing is talking crap, but when the time come to backup his words, he is finding all the excuses in the world.

    Also lets not forget how that big mouth attack Joshua right after the loss Joshua took from Ruiz. He was kicking him while he is down and called him that he was false champion and all kind of s*****.
    Yet i never see anything from Joshua, when he have all the right now to attack that piece of ****** ex paper champion.

    I won`t even talk about his ridiculous excuses. He will lose even the small fan base that has left supporting him.
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    None of this stopped many bums here tipping Wilder to win.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because a lot of people just don`t know boxing at all. Most of them not even enter a boxing gym once.
    Wilder is lacking the fundamentals, his technique is very, very poor, his timing is nonexistent, his balance and footwork is terrible as well.
    And he is calling himself a warrior, when he come with all that crap excuses - wow. A true warrior will be humble in defeat and not blame anyone but himself.
    This is what both Klitschko and Joshua did after they was beaten.
    Klitschko straight up said its his fault, not his team, coach and etc, after the lost to Fury. I didn`t let my hands go it was my fault, no one else.
    Same with Joshua, he said it was all his fault and he lost to the better man that night.
    This is how you improve and go back and take the rematch, not by finding all the excuses in the world.
     
  4. Tyistall

    Tyistall Member banned Full Member

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    I've said for years now that Wilder was a bum-beating fraud who would lose to anyone with a pulse. I caught hell for years and was always called a hater. Now look at him...
     
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  5. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beating up bums doesn't necessarily mean that you are lacking in skills and once you step up you will be found out. Fighters before have fought an opponent who is far greater than anyone else on their resume and still came out victorious.

    Fury "exposed" Wilder by noticing his weaknesses (can't fight off the back foot, doesn't counter punch, has no inside game, has bad foot work, doesn't tie up) and he devised a game plan to take away his strength (straight right hand) and expose his weaknesses.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah, he wasn't exposed. People always knew he was a fraud of a champion.

    Still, in this current division in the last 2 years he deserved to be ranked near the top.
     
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  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    His chin is a lot better than your grammar. He was still standing after some decent punches from Fury. However he did seem to be on unsteady legs quite easily a few times.

    I do agree about his resume, he needs to take out some decent challengers or he will always go down as untested.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree its not only about the opposition, and you can tell if a fighter is a special one, even if he beat bums, but that`s not the case with Wilder.
    Even in the matches against truck drivers, you can clearly see how he is lack the fundamentals. I never ever see from him a good timing, good movement, good technique, he was lacking this things. He was never any good at the inside, so i didn`t need Fury to show me Wilder can`t fight inside, as well as he can`t fight on the back foot, its obvious, because he is lacking good movement.
    Same with his defense, which is just terrible.
    He was winning the fights, mostly because the fighter he face was no danger at out, but you can still see where he lacks, and he lacks in most important area for boxers.

    I pretty much know that Usyk will be a great champion, only by watching him in the amateurs and at the WSB. His first opponents were average at best, but you can say he was going to make it to the top and stay there, because of his skills.

    Grinder, i don`t pretend to have strong english, but Wilder chin is below average. The punches that send him to the canvas was with average power at best. And every punch he take, he was dancing hard, he was rocked by jab for god sake. And Fury is not a big puncher, quite the opposite. And Fury even knock him down with the lead hand to the body ......
    Wilder punch resist either to the body or to the head is terrible.
    AJ will KO him with the first power shot he land, and this is for sure. And this is the reason Wilder dodge him like a plague.
     
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  9. reckless

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    I'm not surprised with his punch resistance, he's very skinny for someone that tall.

    Still, he did almost knock Fury out in the first fight. He's not a complete bum.
     
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  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    People are going to far even though he fought sub optimal comp he did fight some good guys he's very similar to ggg
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    but thats just like a 5 year old child with superhuman strength... why is that commendable? He didnt earn it?
     
  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Most great boxers have some sort of physical advantage that the didn't earn
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah but are you talking about things like walking and getting an erection?
     
  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I made the same point on another thread, he wasn't exposed. His short comings were blatantly obvious for years, it just wasn't taken advantage of due to match making and a weak division
     
  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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