Wilder throwing Breland under bus

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  1. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I get the whole going out on your shield thing, but sometimes fighters need to be saved from themselves.
    One thing's for certain, I'd rather a trainer was over cautious than letting it go too far.
    At the end of the day it's not their brain in there getting battered.
     
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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Deas is the head trainer in name only. Brealand according to Deas himself always had the final word in the corner, so Deas is coming off as spineless by second guessing Breland’s decision.

    Here is Deas talking about the team behind Wilder and saying Mark is the final word in the corner. Anber has left since then though.

    So the managers are Al, Shelly and me. As for training, I work with Mark Breland and Russ Anber. Both have input into Deontay's training; Mark is the lead in the corner and warms Deontay up; Russ is the best hand wrapper in boxing, even Wlad Klitschko calls Russ the best he's ever seen. Russ is also our cut man. I’m the most versatile of the bunch in that I can lead in the corner, wrap, do cuts, so I’m the utility player, filling in if and where needed. Coach Cuz Hill is my assistant and also on Team Wilder as camp coordinator.”
    https://www.boxingmonthly.com/stories/from-the-archives-4/
     
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  3. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I actually like Wilder:( but it’s ironic he almost became “The Body” on his record:bananaride
     
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  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    In one way this is funny, because it's so pathetic, but really it's not funny it's a disgrace. Mark breland was a very accomplished boxer and by all accounts he's a good coach.

    He made a call that's got almost universal support from those watching that fight, bar some fanboy types and fools like Kellerman who are brave when it's someone else's ass on the line.

    If you want a new coach Deontay then get one. Pay Breland his due and move on. Maybe one you listen to. Don't throw him under the bus because it's only you that winds up looking a fool. Oh and for anyone criticising Breland for not improving Wilder, get real. This guy came up throug Kronk and proved himself a master in the ring. Do you honestly think he's not been trying to improve Wilder's technique?

    What we saw in that ring wasn't bad coaching, it was someone who was so arrogant in his power that he didn't think he needed to master his sport. He's been carefully stage managed matched up against inferior fighters and the fool believed his own hype. That montage in rocky 3 could be Wilder's career. Knocking out chumps whilst a real pro looks on and carefully notes all those mistakes.

    Reality caught up with you Deontay and Breland was the only guy man enough in your corner to save you from the worst of it.
     
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  5. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If I was Mark Breland I’d walk anyway

    Jay Deas is an idiot but he’s got Wilders ear so nothing Breland does will be right unless Deas says it is.
     
  6. silentYosi

    silentYosi Member Full Member

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    Mainly? Like more so than not wanting another death in the boxing ring?
     
  7. DJAdAmS

    DJAdAmS Ex-Army Middleweight Full Member

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    You wanted a body on your record Deontay!!!

    Thank Brelund it has not yours.
     
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  8. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Deas just sounded stupid and naive in the post fight presser.
    The story about Wilder saying don’t ever throw in the towel in my fights was just pathetic.
    At the end of the day any trainer worth his salt would straight up tell Wilder that in the right circumstances the towels coming in whether you like it or not. My job is to protect you from yourself in such circumstances.
    If that meant a parting of the ways then so be it and more fool Wilder.
     
  9. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Smoger still reffing??
     
  10. djfonti

    djfonti Active Member Full Member

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    Bayless did say to wilder's corner before the sixth that he needs to show something to be fair to him.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No matter how good a trainer is, you can't make a fighter listen? If you can't even make the fighter listen, then how good is the trainer? If the fighter won't even listen to you, then why are you working with them? How do you dare to call yourself a trainer at that point, and aren't you just taking their money under false pretenses?
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Regarding Breland not teaching Wilder skills. Well, you have to think about how much Wilder is willing to listen to? Not every fighter will put up with a Teddy Atlas. Breland probably tried, realized he couldn't, and decided to help him maximize his current skillset/attributes. Doesn't make him a bad trainer. The man's gotta eat too, he's not just going to walk away from a job like that.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Bootleg D was a dead man walking and he was minutes if not seconds away from getting brutally KTFO. They should've pulled him out sooner because he took a biblical shellacking.
     
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  14. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WTF is Mark Ireland?
     
  15. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    The only explanation is that it's a story written for the dimmest fanbase in world boxing. They'd already swallowed Wilder's resume and confected baddest man on the planet schtick, so they really will swallow any old rubbish.

    Exactly.