Love him or hate him, Wilder is holding this thing together

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love him or hate him, Deontay Wilder is holding this whole division together.

    On a British site like this, the first 11 pages of General Forum threads are Wilder threads. 11 full pages.

    And I can see why. What else is going on?

    Joshua isn't fighting again until the summer against Kubrat Pulev. And it'll probably be his only fight this year.

    Joseph Parker is fighting Saturday against Shawndell Terrell Winters (whoever the hell that is).

    Oscar Rivas is fighting TBA in March.

    Adam Kownacki is fighting Robert Helenius in March.

    Oleksandr Usyk. One fight in the last year and a half (against Chazz Witherspoon). No fights scheduled.

    Fat Dillian Whyte. No fights scheduled.

    Old Alexander Povetkin. No fights scheduled.

    The only big fight we have to look forward to before Wilder returns and seeks to win the WORLD Heayvweight Championship against Tyson Fury in their rubber match ... is a fight for the British Heavyweight title.

    I guess Wilder better hurry up and get back. Because no matter how much you guys have dogged him over the years, it looks like the Wilder-Fury fights are about all this division has going.

    You're going to miss this guy when he's gone. He's a lightning rod.

    A hero is only as great as the villain he's matched with.
     
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  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    No, we'd rather see Fury-Joshua but Wilder's talking crap again and making excuses and saying he'll take the third fight, so let's see the big dosser get absolutely destroyed again.

    Wilder's entire legacy, his claim to fame, his enduring contribution to heavyweight history, will be as a verbal and physical punching bag for Tyson Fury.

    God bless him, the big dosser.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You'd rather see Fury-Joshua, but Joshua is going to spend the whole year fighting once against Kubrat Pulev.

    Usyk has no fights scheduled. Neither does Whyte. Neither does Povetkin.

    Wait, you do have Parker, in his first fight in nearly a year after his sleepwalk against Alex Leapai, taking on Shawndell Terrel Winters.

    There is that.

    But Wilder is TERRIBLE. Boo Wilder. Wilder is the joke. Boo. (LOL)

    Remove "the Evil Villiain" (someone on here actually called him evil) Wilder, and there is nothing to talk about. This division is dead in the water.

    Wilder and Fury's legacies are forever linked now.

    On the other hand, Joshua's legacy is forever linked with Andy Ruiz.

    I think I'll go with Wilder's legacy. (LOL)
     
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  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    As the saying goes the one eyed man is king in the land of the blind.
     
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  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The 11 page threads are laughing at him not with him.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte's made a career out of saying he's being ducked by Deontay Wilder.

    Now that Wilder's out, you look at Whyte. He's got a close, sloppy decision over late-sub Mariusz Wach in his last outing. He was floored and failed his drug test in his fight before that against Rivas.

    You realize how much he was "propped up" by fans with his constant complaining about Wilder.

    Who does he have lined up for the rest of the year? Nobody. Nothing. And it's still February. Nothing going on.

    People said Ortiz was the "boogie man."

    Clearly, Deontay Wilder is the "boogie man."
     
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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People are getting their licks in, as expected.

    To the OP's point, though, I'm definitely not excited for the rest of the year at HW. Part of the problem is this trilogy that no one needs, a useless Joshua fight, a useless Parker fight, and nothing really in the works for others than maybe Whyte and Povetkin. Blech.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's an interesting point, I'm curious to see if he calls out Fury in the same nature he called out Wilder and throws around the duck accusations if he isnt discussed as an immediate fight given how he has been waiting for his shot
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, I know.

    That's what happens when the Arch Villain loses.
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the best thing that could happen would be Fury and Wilder dont do it again.

    Joshua takes care of his mandatory situation to keep the belts together and Fury faces a guy like Whyte and they meet

    Or Joshua dumps a belt and they make the Fury fight sooner

    I hate the idea of the titles splitting and getting paper champs but if we want the big fight we might need to endure that
     
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  12. Bondy365

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    Whyte is all but confirmed to be fighting Povetkin
    Ruiz is looking like his fight may be going ahead against Ortiz
    Joshua has a mandatory challenger to deal with and then will fight the winner of Usyk vs Chisora at the end of the year due to mandatory commitments
    Dubois is fighting Joyce
    Wilder has just come off a 2 loss streak - and wants a third fight with the guy whos just schooled him twice already, trying to keep himself relevant and drain every last penny out of the fans before he is resigned to the $250,000 pay cheques he deserves fighting more bums.

    I'm happy to admit the reason Wilder is all over the forum is because for so long now all you Wilder fans have been sat telling us how great he is, how he has the greatest power of any fighter of all time and sat waiting for the moment AJ or Fury lost so you could jump all over it and wind up all the British fans.

    Wilder was badly exposed in the last 2 fights as a one dimensional fighter with an inability to contend with the big boys of the division. He shouldn't take the 3rd fight as he has just been stopped by "pillow fists" and the whole world knows he lost both fights and will lose the 3rd. I do however wait in anticipation for your future threads if he does activate rematch clause as to how he is going to win the trilogy fight when he comes and gets KO'd infront of 80k at Old Trafford.

    When AJ lost the first fight, you all flocked onto the forum to tell us all how poor he is and how you always knew he was a big stiff idiot and he would never beat Ruiz in a rematch. Well he came back and schooled him for 12 rounds resulting in your man Ruiz throwing a school girl tantrum in the ring because he couldn't get to AJ. AJ showed he is not only a knock out artist but a fighter who can box and move and this is why he also won Olympic gold.

    On the contrary, we all know Wilder lost to fury the first time around and got exposed. Then we heard it all again how great he is and the second time round he got completely humiliated and is now blaming the weight of his ridiculous costume for why he lost. Interesting the weight of previous constumes didn't play such a big factor in the fights he didn't get stopped in ey?

    AJ - a multiple belt holding world champion, a class act who uses his position in media to largely promote positivity. Took his loss with grace and came back to avenge it.
    Fury - a classy lineal and WBC belt holding world champion who uses his position of power in the media to promote mental health awareness
    Wilders a bum - No belt holder, no decent names on record, tries to insult Fury for being suicidal and having mental health issues in press conference, talks about wanting to kill someone in the ring. Lost the first fight, came back and lost even worse the second time around. He has been exposed and I for one am loving the lame excuses you are producing! Keep them coming, my popcorns in the microwave.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Wilder is okay. If he wants to fight Fury again, yeah. That's a fight, not a great one, but something. I'll watch it.
    Of course, Wilder being the 'villain' has to be part of it. Otherwise what's the point in watching. We all know he's going to get destroyed again, so he'll play the villain, so people can cheer when he gets smashed in a few brutal rounds. I guess. Just a body for Fury to tune up on.

    But if he wants to retire that's fine too. There are other fighters in the division. Fury v Whyte is a decent fight. Whyte is a ruffian too, he'd be a good entertainment against Fury.

    Or ..... Wilder could come back and fight some of those names you mention .... the likes of Parker, Ruiz, Rivas, Whyte, Usyk ..... but he really hasn't ever bothered to fight many men of that level, so I wouldn't wait around expecting him to start now.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    How do you rate Wilder historically, compared to, say, Gerry Cooney ?
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has provided cover for a LOT of heavyweights over the last few years, not just Whyte.

    If Wilder wasn't around, and Parker was one of the BIG THREE, think fans would be giving Joseph Parker a pass for the past two years?

    Joseph Parker has spent the last two years fighting Alexander Flores. Alex Leapai and now he's fighting Shawndell Terrel Winters? WTF?

    Same with Povetkin. Povetkin failed his PED test against Wilder. For years since then, that's all Povetkin fans around here talk about. How Wilder sucks for not fighting Povetkin.

    What's Povetkin done since then?

    He failed a second PED test. Got dropped by freaking David Price. Stopped by Joshua. He drew with cruiserweight Hunter. Yeah, Povetkin's really been LIGHTING IT UP in the last few years.

    But it's ALL WILDER'S FAULT.

    Who's Povetkin fighting next? Nobody lined up? Hmm.

    Wilder losing didn't pull back the curtain on Wilder. Wilder is fighting Fury again in August. For the World Title. He's fine.

    His loss pulled back the curtain on all these heavyweights who have been using Wilder and the fans vitriol for Wilder to prop themselves up FOR YEARS.

    What are all these other guys - like Whyte, Parker and Povetkin- going to do now that they don't have Wilder to absorb all the criticism while they skate along?
     
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