Griffith to the end proved he could fight with anyone 160 on down. The great LaMotta had holy hell beating just 1 side of Marcel Cerdan. Before he came to America, Cerdan was more of a boxer.
Since I'm drilling into everyone else's opinions and lists, I'll post what I'll claim to be mine. Although in the next few hours, and certainly up until the time we record the podcast, it will likely have completely changed. 5. Bernard Hopkins 4. Ezzard Charles This content is protected 3. Marvin Hagler 2. Carlos Monzon #1. Harry Greb This content is protected This content is protected
#1. Jones Jnr #2. Hagler #3. SRR #4. Hopkins #5. Monzon I want to put Greb in, but with no footage against these guys, I cant do it
Hopkins isn't one? You've let yourself down, Philly. I'm seeing this is virtually the consensus, but does the #1 H2H MW really lose to Eubank? Are you doing the "Greb: no footage" thing too?
^^^^ This ^^^^ I agree. I can rate him on resume by looking at his record, but there is no way I can identify stylistic tenancies or weaknesses (or strengths) to say how he would do against anyone.
I didn’t know you wanted numerical, thought you just wanted a top 5. I didn’t put them in any order....
yes, on Greb. Others may be smart enough to see his style leap off of a printed page, but not I. yeah I still think Eubank (please start another thread if you want to discuss I don’t want to detract from this topic) beats RJJ, but I don’t think his record will be better than RJJ if they fought the top 50 guys hypothetically.
Charles is tricky ,he has some good scalps but was often over 5lbs north of the divisions limit ,he had 6.5lbs on Burley in 1 fight, and 9 in the other. He did concede a ton of weight to Maxim and beat him but he himself was over165lbs I don't like leaving Ketchel out its either him or Steele to round up my 5.
Nope **** it! It's now: Greb Robinson Monzon Hagler Williams On the bench Burley. Holman Williams beat Burley,Moore,Wade,Belloise,Lytell,Marshall,Basora,Chase,Tunero,and Cocoa Kid.
I'm not judging or belittling btw man, you're more qualified to comment on things like than I am, just sort of asking if it was an oversight or something, in a snarky, round about kinda way.