Top 5 H2H MWs?

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  1. Abysmal Brute1981

    Abysmal Brute1981 Member banned Full Member

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    Griffith to the end proved he could fight with anyone 160 on down.

    The great LaMotta had holy hell beating just 1 side of Marcel Cerdan. Before he came to America, Cerdan was more of a boxer.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know, but do they BEAT Greb? Hopkins? Hagler? Or even Monzon or LaMotta? ;)
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    Since I'm drilling into everyone else's opinions and lists, I'll post what I'll claim to be mine. Although in the next few hours, and certainly up until the time we record the podcast, it will likely have completely changed.

    5. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Ezzard Charles
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    3. Marvin Hagler
    2. Carlos Monzon
    #1. Harry Greb


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  4. red cobra

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    You are 200% right in this post!! I agree completely!!
     
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  5. red cobra

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    Monzon
    Griffith
    SRR
    Hagler
    Greb
    Sorry, but there's 6 in my list...Valdez
     
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  6. blackfella96

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    #1. Jones Jnr
    #2. Hagler
    #3. SRR
    #4. Hopkins
    #5. Monzon

    I want to put Greb in, but with no footage against these guys, I cant do it
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

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    RJJ
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Hopkins
    SRR
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins isn't one? You've let yourself down, Philly. ;)

    I'm seeing this is virtually the consensus, but does the #1 H2H MW really lose to Eubank? Are you doing the "Greb: no footage" thing too?
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

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    ^^^^ This ^^^^ I agree. I can rate him on resume by looking at his record, but there is no way I can identify stylistic tenancies or weaknesses (or strengths) to say how he would do against anyone.
     
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  10. PhillyPhan69

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    I didn’t know you wanted numerical, thought you just wanted a top 5. I didn’t put them in any order....
     
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  11. PhillyPhan69

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    yes, on Greb. Others may be smart enough to see his style leap off of a printed page, but not I.

    yeah I still think Eubank (please start another thread if you want to discuss I don’t want to detract from this topic) beats RJJ, but I don’t think his record will be better than RJJ if they fought the top 50 guys hypothetically.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Charles is tricky ,he has some good scalps but was often over 5lbs north of the divisions limit ,he had 6.5lbs on Burley in 1 fight, and 9 in the other. He did concede a ton of weight to Maxim and beat him but he himself was over165lbs I don't like leaving Ketchel out its either him or Steele to round up my 5.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Nope **** it! It's now:
    Greb
    Robinson
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Williams

    On the bench Burley.
    Holman Williams beat Burley,Moore,Wade,Belloise,Lytell,Marshall,Basora,Chase,Tunero,and Cocoa Kid.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    I'm not judging or belittling btw man, you're more qualified to comment on things like than I am, just sort of asking if it was an oversight or something, in a snarky, round about kinda way.
     
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  15. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I appreciate the love you're showing for Griffith.