♦♦Fury would destroy Anthony Joshua... Wilder would also KTFO AJ♦♦

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  1. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Wilder will bounce back but I would encourage him to take another fight, a prospect who comes forward, and rebuild his confidence

    Fury, Wilder and AJ are the top dogs hands down
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I mean theres always that Tiny chance that AJ’s glass jaw gets shattered :sisi1
     
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  3. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Respect brother. It takes a man to admit when you're wrong :thumbsup:
    If the third fight happens, how do you see it playing out?

    I put a cheeky $150 on Fury to win between 7-12 by stoppage. A cool $1200 return from the big lad.
    Knowing that @IsaL was going to lose sleep over it, that was worth more than the $1200 alone :thumbup:
     
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  4. realshocks

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    No. Only
    Hyperbole for the ages. Cut it out, dude. I haven't read any comments that suggest someone being a "simpleton".
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    The Fury from Wilder II would walk through and rag doll AJ. The right Wilder landed on Fury in the first round would have knocked most fighters including AJ out cold, Fury's willpower is inhuman, nothing that AJ could land on him would dissuade him enough to keep him from pressing forward. Not to mention, Fury's reach, control of range and elusiveness on the front foot, immense size advantage, inside game, physical power, incredible stamina are all wrong for AJ, that was the case before and after the Wilder rematch. An in the zone switched on Fury can never be underestimated by me or anyone else after that. AJ is weak willed, timid, scared to death of being hit flush, scared of gassing, is economical with his punches due to that fear and lacks willpower and heart. Fury's mind games would have him at 50% in the ring on fight night. He'd gas from the stress alone.

    AJ wouldn't fight Wilder like Fury did, he's not willing to take those kind of risks, he'd fight him like he fought Ruiz, he'd still be terrified of being tagged clean but a Wilder right and would be hyper cautious. Thankfully for him, he has a packaged ready made "oh the fight is dead, Fury ruined him, I don't have to fight him now, the result is a foregone conclusion" excuse he can rely on, the same one all of his scared fanboys are making for him now.

    As far as Whyte goes, that fat repulsive **** was getting slung around the ring by Wach. He's not rangy enough or smart enough to close the distance without walking into bomb after bomb. He wouldn't see the 4th round.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Where's the hyperbole? AJ was getting walked down, thrashed around the ring and rag-dolled by a tub of lard, he was mentally frail, gassed out, was dropped four times by an average puncher HW, and his body and mind physically and mentally quit on him. He was looking to the ref to save him, and that wasn't even a year ago, but now the scared runner who played stay away for 12 rounds against the same cow that wrecked him the first time. This guy that everyone said was done, was wrecked, and would never be the same, is now going to go into the ring will full supreme confidence against someone far rangier and far more heavy handed than the guy who beat him. Yeah, that won't be the case.

    AJ is still to timid fighter he was post Wlad, the only reason he got brave against Fat Andy was that he thought he couldn't hurt him, well.... even that wasn't the case. Now am I saying AJ doesn't have a chance? No. But let's not act like Saturday changed anything about how that match would play out, because it didn't.
     
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  7. CST80

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    :nonono Nothing's changed. still a 50/50, leaning in the favor of the guy with the better chin and more heart.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    You only need to punch hard enough to be able to KO your opponent, and I'm quite sure Joshua hits hard enough to KO Wilder, in one shot too. 60/40 Joshua because of his better skills.
     
  9. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I favor Joshua to KO wilder faster than the lighter hitting Tyson Fury. 70/30 in favor of Joshua.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Why? He fights nothing like Fury, and you know damn well the version from the Ruiz rematch is going to show up, there's zero chance AJ has the balls, backbone, heart and bravery of Fury, to even attempt what he did Saturday. Now tell me, how in the hell is a guy who's retreating for 12 rounds going to walk down and KO Wilder quicker than Fury? AJ isn't going to stand anywhere close to being in range, if anything he'll pull the backfoot Grabimir Clinchscko act again.
     
  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Because Ruiz is more dynamic and a better boxer than Wilder, Wilder only has his one signature punch, he has nothing else going for him. Joshua doesnt have to worry about Wilders boxing ability because he has none, he will maul him down and prevent him from using that equalizer. Joshua has more to worry against Ruiz than Wilder.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Yes, and? Wilder is heavier handed, and has a a tendency to hurt people in exchanges, even when he's hurt, just like Ruiz. AJ is also far easier to hit flush than Fury. Why are you doing this? It's devalueing and undermining Fury as a fighter. AJ isn't close to his level. AJ DOES NOT fight like that. He's never walked anyone down and used his body weight to maul anyone with, he's always fought puncher's at range. He wouldn't even attempt that against Breazeale, who's a congealed gelatinous turd with awful stamina, and now he's going to do that with an even bigger threat, I was kidding before, but maybe you are a simpleton.:sisi1

    Will AJ land behind his ear? Will his equilibrium be off the whole match? The chances of that happening again is slim and none. The events of one match has **** all to do with how they play out in another.
     
  13. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Good call brother!!!!
    I don’t see Wilder getting past Fury on a 3rd fight if Fury fights the same style. Wilder can’t box off the back foot and is a C minus on overall boxing to begin with IMO.

    Skills and will over Power is what we witnessed this past weekend
     
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  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because there's a good chance Wilder's chin won't hold up like before this last fight. It happens a lot post KO loss. It'll be harder for for those toothpick thick legs to hold his weight, and that of a costume I suppose. ;)
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Anyone could be heavier handed fighting geriatrics with heart problems or fringe contenders from the WBC (corrupt rankings)Wilder would have been knocked out long ago if his team didn’t carefully pick his opponents from the worst possible batch. Yeah Joshua doesnt walk down his opponents, but nobody was expecting Fury to walk down Wilder, why? Because people forget that boxers that lack fundamentals (like Wilder) can easily be beaten by superior boxers, Joshua doesnt have to worry much about Wilder, all he has is the punch, if Joshua smells blood he is going for it and he is heavier handed than Fury. Only a Wilder fanboy would think otherwise.
     
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