What Famous Knockdown in Heavyweight History Does This Remind You Of?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder is the most deserving heavyweight of all the fighters in the top 10.

    Wilder has a draw with the World Heavyweight Champion (dropping him twice) and he iced the #4 contender TWICE (scoring four knockdowns against him). No other contenders in the current top 10 can match that.

    And he has one loss in a 12-year, 44 fight career, and that loss came to undefeated World Champion. No one else in the current top 10 can match that, either.

    And Wilder will get the first crack at Fury in August.

    So no. No one else deserves a chance more than he does.

    Most of the guys in the top 10 don't even have fights lined up for 2020 (and we're nearly three months into it), and Wilder has already fought Fury and has another fight lined up with him this summer.

    As I said yesterday, Wilder's loss pulled back the curtain on the rest of the contenders. None of them are doing squat in comparison.
     
  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    If you were sad after the last fight, you might want to skip the third one of these two ever meet again. After Wilder threw his corner under the bus for throwing in the towel, he’s going to get his wish and go out on his shield this time. Wilder didn’t lose because of an illegal punch (he threw more illegal punches than Fury in the fight) it because of the heavy gimp suite he wore in the ring walk. He also didn’t lose because of a puncture eardrum or any lame excuses. He lost to a better fighter. Fury didn’t have a mark on him after seven rounds and Wilder’s face looked like something the dog barfed up.

    I was just reading all the crap Wilder’s fans posted before the fight on Twitter. Lots of big talkers, talking trash. Looks like the same group is grasping at straws for excuses. This isn’t going to end well for your guy.
     
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  3. Simon Head

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    No need for a third fight, Fury has beat Wilder twice already, it’s someone else’s time to have a go at Fury now.

    Everyone wants to see Joshua vs Fury. Hopefully Wilder finally takes the fight with Whyte, been wanting to see that fight for a long time now.
     
  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    He will get his shot but I believe most fans have seen enough. Fury beat him in the first fight and was robbed. Busted him up in the second and was treated to an endless stream of crybaby excuses. The third fight is going to be more brutal and Wilder is not going to hear the final bell. I’d rather see a mega fight against AJ in England but a contract with Wilder means we have to wait.

    Fury will be fresh for the AJ fight after he gives Deonte another old fashioned beat down. A good warm up for the big fight I guess.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Wilder has better credentials against the current top 10 than any other contender for Fury's crown.

    And if the result of the fourth Pacquaio-Marquez fight had come in fight two, after the first-fight draw, there wouldn't have been a third or fourth fight and Manny may have no wins over Marquez. (Luckily, Wilder had a rematch clause.)

    We've seen close fights in series' and one-sided wins, too.

    There have been any number of heavyweight series where the individual fights were one-sided.

    As I posted elsewhere, Ali-Frazier 1 was clearly won by Frazier. Ali-Frazier III was clearly won by Ali. The second fight was the only close bout. Johansson clearly won fight 1 against Patterson. Floyd clearly won fight 2. And their third fight was a barnburner where both guys were dropped twice. Bowe-Holyfield 1 was clearly won by Bowe. The rematch was close. The third fight, Bowe clearly won again (except for the round Evander dropped him).

    It's difficult to predict how things will go while you're in the midst of these types of series.

    I can see the first Wilder-Fury fight being the close one. The second being the fight Fury wins convincingly. And the third being the one Wilder KOs him in. Who knows?

    We'll see in August. Should be good.
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder always has a punchers chance.
    But he got beat down badly last weekend.
    He had zero answers.

    maybe he can land something in fight 3
    But has never been a technician or even a good boxer.

    All he has is power. But if an opponent knows how to maul & smother he gets beat down with inside game.
    9 times out of 10.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    Fury was like a steamroller Saturday. Without a doubt. But, like the clip in the first post in this thread, it may have looked more impressive on TV than it actually was, as at least one of the two official knockdowns was Wilder tripping over his feet against an on-rushing Fury.

    Wilder may need to learn to sidestep Fury like a bullfighter for the third fight and land the right as Fury goes by.

    In fight two, Wilder was movng straight back.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    But you are not just posting about heavyweights, you are posting more specifically about Wilder.

    I get the sense that you would be disappointed if Fury paid Wilder to step aside and instead unified the division against AJ.
     
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  9. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Post it again dude but this time without crying
     
  10. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with wilder is he has poor fundamentals.
    That’s why his feet are in the wrong positions
    both knockdowns resulted in him being in poor position to withstand fury’s offensive.
     
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  11. The Long Count

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    doesn’t work that way, Wilder received a gift draw in the first fight, don’t take my word for it, just check all the posters and websites about it, so now they had this fight to settle the dispute and Wilder LOST EVERY ROUND AND GOT STOPPEd. you don’t get a 3rd bout off that. Wallin was more competitive against Fury, Usyk is undefeated, Joshua is the mega fight everyone wants to see. Stop pushing Wilder the can crusher back for a 3rd try when he failed twice already. It’s over.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    Wallin didn't drop Fury twice and fight him to a draw.

    And Wallin isn't fighting for the World Heavyweight Championship next.

    Deontay Wilder is fighting Fury next.

    Otto Wallin is fighting Lucas Browne.

    That's the way it works.

    One guy is fighting for the WORLD Heavyweight championship next.

    The other is fighting Lucas Browne.

    Welcome to the real world.
     
  13. The Long Count

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    Wallin lasted the distance Wilder was just tko’d and was not nearly as competitive as Wallin in either fight. Facts
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Deontay Wilder knocked down Tyson Fury two times and fought him to a 12-round draw.

    Wallin didn't come close to dropping Fury. Wallin lost a one-sided unanimous decision to Fury. Whereas Wilder drew with Fury.

    Wallin has never beaten or fought to a draw with a top fighter. And Wallin isn't fighting for the World Championship next.

    I don't know why you're bringing up Otto Wallin. Is he the guy you think is more qualified than all the other contenders? Wallin isn't even ranked.

    Wilder is fighing Fury for the world championship next. And deservedly so.