Duran was a flat out jerk

Love it. Especially compared to a withdrawn wallflower like yourself. eh, Mac?

 

I wonder if Duran beat the dejesus out of his wife?

Not to make a joke out of domestic violence. of course.

 

Like Robinson? Robinson’s son said the best combination he ever saw his father throw was on his mother.

 

No.

 

and @McGrain .. get rid of the Duran's Best Performance thread as well if it's warranted.. It has mucked to sh*t for months now

 

Do you know who did, by chance? Sorry to accuse.

It was definitely deleted.

 

The bejesus/dejesus thing was more of a pun than an inditement on boxers who have been accused of violence against women.

I sometimes have a problem defending boxing after a death or serious injury but I have more of an issue having men as my heroes who are allegedly violent towards women. That is a very long list including names such as Monzon, Mayweather, Bowe, Hagler, Leonard, La Motta et al. Then you have headcases like Valero and suddenly hitting another compliant man of the same size in the head becomes small beer in comparison.

Ali is revered the world over but even he admits he slapped his first wife Sonji Roy. Evander Holyfield was accused of assaulting first wife Paulette.

The point being, we have to celebrate our boxing idols for what they do in the ring. If you want saints as your heroes, boxing might not be the best place to start looking. I keep how boxers are in the ring totally separate from outside and that lets me live with how much I enjoy the sport. So, by that token, I have nothing but admiration for Duran based on the vast majority of what he did in the ring. I'm not going to judge how he behaved outside because, if I go down that road, I'll run out of heroes pretty fast. Only Johnny Owen might meet the criteria. When it comes to the morality around boxing, I do a very good impression of an ostrich.

 

Monzon?

 

Troll post purely to start crap.

 

Sugar Ray Leonard gets no credit for the no mas fight ...and that is an injustice

 

What about him? Is it really news to you that he had a history of violence against partners and went to prison for killing a woman?

 

I think fighters who seem to come off as...unpleasant, do so as for them, it is necessity. Maybe there has to be something, at least in the upper echelons of the sport, other than the material objects they fight for, such as money, titles, etc, but something inside that gives them a reason to have to go and fight. Maybe they have to convince themselves they have been slighted by someone, and that, or anything else of the same nature, is used as a type of fuel to "drive" them to the place where they can work themselves up to where they actually have a true desire to fight this other man. Another possibility, using Duran or Mayorga for example, are two fighters who would prefer to not to have to put much effort in chasing a "runner" around and hope that by using the trash talk they will hopefully succeed in goading the opponent into more of a "street fight" than a boxing match. Hoping to work them up to a place where they will wish to stand and bang it out with them as it, at least in the case of Mayorga, is the most likely way to result in a win for him.

 

Your point being?

 

no he didn't. Neither did Benitez for that matter.