Donovan ruddock v George foreman 1991 who wins ?

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  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never liked Moorer myself, but his record pre-Foreman speaks for itself.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Yeah, it does. Life and death with Bert Cooper and Alex Stewart, two guys Foreman tested out.
     
  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This one is the only nonsese here believe me
     
  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stewart actually did pretty good with Foreman...but that's mostly because George basically punched himself out after flooring him.
     
  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Early stoppage victories don't really reflect a fighter going "Life and death", even if one did have to get up off the canvas themselves, in order to go on to win.

    "Life and death" is a more apt description for Wlad K/Sam Peter (I).
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting how he doesn't mention the mighty Holyfield. Beating Holy, even at that stage, was quite the accomplishment.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I don't think you set the rules, pal. Moorer was almost stopped in those fights against journeymen.
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey, if you disagree with us you disagree. All respect. It's all just opinion around here, obviously.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but the selective omission of evidence, which doesn’t fit one’s line of argument, seems to be the unfortunate price of fandom, these days. :)
     
  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What rules? By “rules”, do you actually mean ‘valid objections to your sweeping statements’, which show your arguments to be desperate and agenda-driven?

    If so, then - yes - I do set them, pal! :lol:

    “Almost stopped” means Moorer wasn’t, in reality, stopped. And, instead, Moorer won by stoppage - early. And, as has been previously mentioned, you seem to avoid acknowledging his defeat of Holyfield.

    It just seems that you don’t want to acknowledge the scale of Foreman’s feat - or, at least, downplay the Moorer win, as far as you can.

    You know, when you’re having to do your level best to focus on the negatives and ignore the positives of any given boxer, to give the impression of a strong position, it’s a fair indicator of a weak line of argument.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    He narrowly beat Holyfield on an off night and was soundly beaten in the rematch

    Look, Moorer was a tier 2 guy in the 90s and so was Foreman.

    Tier 1 was Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, and Tyson. They only lost to each other with the exceptions of McCall and the first Moorer fight, both avenged.
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

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    The idea foreman avoided punchers isn't just untrue, it's a flat out lie and crumbles if you actually look at his record. He went out of his way to fight punchers and his resume is full of them.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    As for Foreman vs Wladmir, Wladmir never defended his belts against a fighter as good as Ali. I have Wladmir higher on my rankings due to longevity but using the logic that "Foreman only made 2 defenses Wladmir made 20" is flawed because a lot of Wladmir's defenses were against garbage opponents.
     
  14. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Moore's chin was weak?
    He was KO'd late by Foreman a man whom by Evanders own admission was the hardest puncher he faced Moore hung tough with holyfield and had a 90s version of Lyle vs Foreman against Cooper a man Mcall credits to hitting harder then Tyson what week puncher undid him?

    He got up against Cooper a multiple of times and took flush shots and fired back his chin was solid I'd also like to remind you all this he did as a natural light heavyweight...

    Razor Ruddock has the output of a musket unlike Foreman as an old man was busy almost all night with Evander till Evander started holding in the late rounds for God sake.

    Strength: Foreman
    Chin: Foreman
    Power: Foreman
    Punch Output: Foreman
    Skill: Foreman
    Ring Generalship: Foreman
    Experience: Foreman
    Speed: Razor
    Corner: Foreman
    Heart: Arguable

    Foreman would outbox out muscle and outland Razor to a late KO or a UD with plenty of knockdowns Razor isn't Busy enough to keep Foreman off him and his power will not startle Foreman he's tasted greater.
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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