Rocky is my man but. Wlad controls the distance with his jab on the backfoot being careful. He clinches jabs and grabs. Marciano keeps on getting caught by wlads superior jab. At times marciano is able to land big shots at close range hurting wlad a bit. However wlad ends up holding and clinching stoping the attack . marciano unable to find a way to continue to land his big shots frustrated. Wladimir super cautious.. Similar to the povetkin fight. Wlad wins on points using his jab
I don't see Wlad having any fear of what Marciano ships his way. This would be target practice and the absolute physical domination of a superior athlete and technician over an inferior. A brutal showcase that is stopped by even the most masochistic ref before the 5th round begins. And then everyone blames Wlad for taking on such a patsy.
You see the light....I am a big WK critic but he would do a number on Marciano and it would not be pretty.
Rocky has too much here for Wlad, KO in the 7th after insurmountable pressure is applied and Wlad can just not hit him cleanly. Wlad also could not handle the power Rocky has and the constant body attacks would leave him reeling in this one sided affair.
I’d say Marciano is better then Sanders and Brewster who are pressure fighters. This fight can be Wlads if he can successfully hold and lean on Rocky....but I’m not sure he is capable of doing that as no one else was properly able too. Marciano KO most likely. If it goes decision it’s wlads. But I’m leaning towards KO.
Here we go again. Tell me, who has a better record of beating modern HW fellows of 200lb + ? What was Rocco, 9-0, including the 17lb to make Louis a big fellow?
Is that a reoccurring thing in this section? Rocky Marciano is hard to hit? He dominates Wladimir K. in a one-sided fight? Craziness.
If I remember correctly it was 11-0 w 11 KOs but idk what that has to do with this specific matchup. I understand no matter what I say will be fantasy with you in regards to Marciano. We will have to agree to disagree. For the record I pick Lewis to beat marciano because he had a more reliable chin, more power, and knew how to use his height against short people better. Wlad was a great fighter imo but he had his faults.
Its viral, spreading through the Classics (General laughs about this). Its called Rockista Brain Virus (RBV). Symptoms are extremely subjective heroizing of Mr. Marchegiano, coming with H2H evaluations by things he didn´t do. Some do this by idolizing, some do this to keep their world of "Equal comparable HW devisions along 120 years of boxing" together, mostly to make comparisons more simple and less relative. We had hundreds, even thousands of pages with that guy coming from the 189lb LHW-CW-devision, going for 215+ fellows like Wlad, Lewis, Vitali, Fury, Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Ibeabuchi, Tua etc. Some of these threads seemed therapeutic, but yeah, this is still a reoccuring thing. Against any laws, common sense and logic. Some even know they´re infected but can´t stop themself from going Rockista Its ok
This. Wlad’s wrestling would give Rocky a hard time, but unlike Povetkin or Mormeck I don’t see Marciano letting Wlad get away with leaning on him and muscling him for very long without retaliating with a lowblow or forearm to the throat. Marciano would definitely find Wlad’s chin in the later rounds. Shkor used every dirty trick in the book, which included using his size and weight to lean on Marciano, but this only resulted in Marciano hitting him with a hard lowblow and afterwards beating the tar out of him.
Rocky Marciano was good but he boxed in a weak era and the competition was not that great, Wladimir also didn't have any great competition except a couple of fights. Rocky Marciano had a great fight against Walcott when he came back and won, also Rocky Marciano beat Joe Louis, who was already at the end of his career. Wladimir was the better fighter and he would beat him...
I looked up Shkor-he was 30-19-2 when he fought Marciano in his second to last fight. After going 19-1 against at best mediocre competition-& mostly tomato cans... He generally stepped up in competition, & from 22-30 years old (when he fought Rocky) had a very bad record. It was...11-18! Even with the early (& usual) early record padding-& no fights when older/in decline- he only had a 42.31 KO rate. At his very best, he never was anything like a contender. He not only did not have the muscle/bulk of a modern day fighter, against somewhat smaller men he was not very good. He is not remotely comparable to a Klitchko. Either Brother could KO him at will. So it is a terrible comparison in considering how Marciano would do against a huge, highly skilled & wildly successful ATG. [url]https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/12141[/url]
Have you seen Shkor fight? A lot of his tactics when he fought smaller guys were very similar to what Wlad would use, but he had better handspeed and infighting skills in my opinion. Shkor also had a very good right hand, but power is the first thing that will be neutralized against a clever opponent. Also, KO percentage doesn’t really say much about a fighter’s punching power. When fighters start fighting better competition or tough style matchups the KO’s don’t come as easy or at all. The hardest puncher can be neutralized into a nonpuncer against the wrong style. When Fury used the right strategy Wilder’s power meant nothing and it’s looking like Wilder’s struggling with accepting it, but like a lot of guys high KO percentages he was brought back to reality. Even Marciano himself when he fought crafty guys that could neutralize his crouch like Lowry, Red Applegate, and Charles his punching power wasn’t as effective. Norkus most likely would’ve given Marciano similar trouble, which is likely why that fight never happened. When Vitali himself encountered a difficult style matchup in Byrd, who was the much smaller fighter he lost and was wisely steered away from fighting Byrd again. Vitali despite having a high KO percentage had his power neutralized due to Byrd’s style. Vitali has a nice and clean record, but he rarely fought tough style matchups. Wlad was the one that beat all of the smaller craftier fighters such as Byrd, Haye, Ibragimov, Povetkin, and Chambers, who stylistically would’ve been very tough for Vitali’s style and even then look how low Wlad’s knockout percentage is against these 5 smaller fighters. If Byrd could beat Vitali guys like Curtis Shepard, Jimmy Bivins, and Nathan Mann certainly have shot. Styles makes fights. Shkor tended to due better against heavier and taller opponents, since lighter opponents, who are crafty can sometimes be the toughest opponents, so assuming that Wlad or Vitali would easily Knock Shkor out based on an incomplete record on boxrec is quite a reach. I like boxrec as much as the next guy and it is a nice and convenient resource, but boxrec doesn’t even have Shkor’s complete fight record. Boxrec is also severely lacking in information on many of his opponents. Also, the standards of competition have changed since the 50’s considering there was only one title back then. Becoming a top contender or even a champion becomes a lot easier when there are 4 heavyweight titles. Pulev has consistently been ranked as a top 10 heavyweight for last couple of years, but besides him having rich backers I can’t tell you what he’s done in the ring to continue to be ranked so high. However, with saying all of that I hope we get a dominant undisputed heavyweight champ soon. Fury has all of the tools, but I’m not 100% convinced he can handle prosperity.
Jeez these nonsense bibles! Was Shkor a terrible 30-19-2, This content is protected or This content is protected ? Which other good HW would manage to accomplish that, having a 25-30lb weight advantage fighting LHWs and CWs? Answer this please.
