If I am wrong I will say I was full of dung and give the guy his due He is a quality fighter and he 'might' be the 3rd best in the division I just can't see him beating the big 2 So as you can see I am not a full on hater, I do agree that he has more than earned a TS
He isn't though Frank was a quality fighter and fought in a much tougher era I am not sure what age you are, but I am 36 and was a kid watching the 90's, I have also watched back the majority of big HW fights from the 70's and 80's (where big Frank campaigned along with the 90's)
He floored parker, but Parker nearly killed him Who looked worse following the knockdown? How many times did Parker have AJ in trouble? Chisora went life and death with Whyte, he didn't trouble Fury at all. Fury fought southpaw for heavens sake You do realise that Haye stopped a more prime, hungry version than Whyte? It isn't just about knockouts Maidana and Cotto had more stoppages than Floyd. Who would you say is the better boxer? Foreman had more knock outs than Ali? Julian Jackson had more stoppages and much more one punch power than Hopkins, or Hagler. However, was he better? You know the answer Anyway this is a debate, I will refrain from calling Whyte a bum (he isn't) and I know you are a fan I do look forward to seeing him get a chance though
Fair play, and I never touted Dillian as the best, or gifted, or talented... just that his whole array of qualities mesh together to form someone that can grind out a win. I never said he would walk through Fury or AJ, it would be a very tough fight... but Whyte has been preparing by taking tough challenging fights to turn him into a formidable, seasoned warrior. Fury and AJ ain't miles ahead of Guys like Whyte.... ive been saying it for years... the way Ruiz beat AJ.... Whyte was going to do the same... back then AJ was invincible... remember? Nobody thought someone like Ruiz or Whyte stood a chance against AJ... and Ruiz put AJ down 5 times and survived his best shots. Same thing with Wilder Fury, Ive said before Wilder aint invincible, and Whyte would have mauled Wilder the same way Fury did... he said it plenty of times before the fight even happened.... I studied and anaylysed man, I didnt fall for the hype. Now the bubble around Wilder and AJ has been burst... you still think Fury is invincible???? Come on man, he can be beat. Win or lose, they will be great fights, and thats all that matters. 50/50 in my opinion for Whyte vs AJ or Fury.
Man I honestly can say it is banter with me Fury is my guy and it's like picking a favourite team I will be honest here and now Whyte is a quality hw and imo likely number 3 in the division I still make the other 2 favourites, but who knows? I didn't expect Ruiz to beat AJ either You say 50/50 I would say Whyte v AJ is 60/40 for AJ And I think Fury would be 70/30 Just my opinion bro and I will be more respectful from now on But I do enjoy a bit of banter
Fair comments, but there is a distinctive difference between Hayes stoppage and Whytes stoppage. KO vs TKO... and its pretty obvious Whyte had Chisora out cold... for a long time... did you not see Don Charles trying to wake up Chisora and praying to jesus? Chisora got up quick from Hayes TKO stoppage. And Chisora was in the best shape of all time, with Haye training him.
yea Fury is so great he would never ever lose to Whyte, jamaican boy got no chance , just look what Fury did to ATG Wallin.
Ok fair dues Lets see some big fights soon and we both can agree that Whyte has earned his shot ages ago If Fury doesn't make the AJ fight soon, he needs to fight Whyte after he beats Wilder again Or AJ should offer Dillian another shot, as he has earned a shot before Usyk Some of these mandatory rankings are garbage
He still got the job done Ali had lazy performances in his career too You do realise he scraped by Doug Jones, before he fought for the title? Some fighters get up for the big fights You don't think it's possible that Fury overlooked Wallin??
Fury's devastating victory against Wilder shocked me and I have a big mess now in my personal rankings in the HW division. Fury is #1 now for me, leaving a decent gap behind until he's followed by Joshua and Wilder who both are not far ahead of Whyte, Ruiz and Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Chisora, Usyk and others. That's a very quick made ranking by me. I think Whyte finds himself in 51/49 against both Joshua and Wilder. Fury is just too weird to fight and has a good reach and hight advantage, I dont give Whyte much chances, even if he has devastating body punches. He'll finish Povetkin though, if he plays it smart. Sad for Povetkin, but it might be his last big fight before a random career ending fight in Russia.
Luckily all Whytes opponents take him seriously for good reason. You dont take Dillian lightly or under prepare. He brings the heat
One thing I know Fury is as overrated as it gets. Staying out of range ,making stupid faces and landing a weak ass slap or two per round against 40yo shot Wlad is not schooling and then getting a TKO against a guy who can’t box and has overrated power does not make you invincible . Fury ain’t anything special , he’s not master technician , not some kind of super boxer , he ‘s a clumsy oaf. Fury looked “good” twice, I mean he did not even look good , but let’s say he did and that was against 40yo shot wlad and then against wilder . Wlad looked like crap against Jennings , because he was shot and then pretty much everybody looked against Wilder, polish bum Szpilka was outboxing wilder. Fury did not overlook Wallin , he simply is not as good as most “fans” think now. If Joshua fight happens you will see that Fury is pretty average.
I saw Wallin have lots of success against Fury because Otto made a concerted effort to go to the body early on in the fight. I never knew how susceptible Tyson was to body punches and it clearly helped Wallin setup punches to the head afterward. Aside from Wallin gassing out in the later rounds, he also stopped going to the body around round 7 or 8 which made it so much more difficult to setup anything upstairs. He really was going headhunting too much after opening up Fury's eye and he should've reverted back to how he was fighting in the earlier rounds. Whyte is an excellent body puncher, especially that left hook to the body which he sets up so well. The major issue is he would look like an amateur against Fury if Tyson decides to move all night and fight from a distance with his jab. If he's in perpetual motion all night, he wins an easy decision against the plodding Whyte. If Tyson decides to stand his ground though and make it a phone booth fight- even if for only brief periods- than Whyte could potentially do some damage. Dillian is a good fighter who has been evolving since losing to AJ (except his last fight which he looked putrid but I can understand given his circumstances leading into it.) I don't like his chances against the top guys of the division but he's earned his right to fight one of them to see how he stacks up.
